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Deceptichum
NorgurBut the Wiki is soooo nice! And have you seen AUR!
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ObliviousEnlightenmentIt’s just four words though.
I use arch btw
(Or maybe six, is btw three words?)
skyin7
AzzuYeah, it is a lot of initial work, but once you got your shell.nix or flake.nix in place it is really nice, to not have to deal with different dependencies and versions in different projects.
But you can also archive the same on amy distro with the nix package manager.
☂️-
tatterdemalion
NostraDavidProbably not often, but as a Debian user, it’s a PITA to get back to where I was before I fucked up my system. Nix(OS) sounds like a future investment to me, just in case I ever fuck up and need to get back to where I was ASAP. Been there once already and it was NOT fun.
That was from a professional standpoint BTW, privately I’m still a dirty Windows pleb, because that’s what I’m most familiar with.
PS: I’m already using a dotfiles repo, which already saves me a ton of time in settings things up.
This is why I run Manjaro, which I never hear any love for here for some reason. It’s the rolling releases and cutting edge updates of Arch, but with the ease of use and reliability of Debian. Insert a bootable USB and have a fully functional system in a couple minutes.
Manjaro just works, from gaming to development, and I’ve never been forced to play games to install a hardware driver or newer library that isn’t part of the release like with Debian or Ubuntu.
Been using Linux for over 20 years and never seen a distro so trouble free.
brenticus
BoneALisaAgreed, i had more issues on Manjaro than i ever did on raw Arch. The Manjaro team, at least during the time i used it, didnt seem very good at keeping things working. So many issues with bad packages, keys expiring, stuff like that.
Arch was a blessing.
However, NixOS has ascended me to heaven lol.
Interesting, I’ve installed it on quite a few machines now, all with widely varying hardware. Aside from my development/gaming rig I’ve got a shop laptop which is used by various goons to view shop drawings and look up parts, one the ex-wife still hasn’t managed to break, one is my 9 year old daughter’s and another is a potato that runs my 3d printer (to be fair this one is fossilized and doesn’t get updates).
All are working great with no setup effort and no maintenance so I guess it’s a classic case of YMMV. I wouldn’t have used Arch for any of those use cases except maybe the 3d printer.
nix flake init, tho
𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍I discovered that EndeavourOS satisfied that for me, without me having to give up Arch. And snapper+btrfs-grub has eliminated any interest in messing about with the new line of immutable systems. The only tempting distro I might spend time in is Chimera Linux (link, b/c of an unfortunate naming conflict) which (a little hilariously) is an attempt to make a Linux distro that’s purely Gnu-free. Chimera also runs dinit instead of systemd, and that’s interesting.
Anyway, there are a couple of options that let a user stay in Arch but make things less… fussy.
Different species. They’re not in the Linuxite clade.
The Linuxite taxa have far higher diversity due to faster mutation rates; the BSD genus has far fewer species, and can’t cross-breed with Linuxites.
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Destide
Lunya \ she/itI unironically prefer apt over pacman, simply because my monkeybrain got addicted to running pacman -S (that was how to update, right?) and I dropped in productivity. apt is just “nah fam, there’s nothing new for you” most days, which gives me the quiet time I want and need.
I ran Manjaro BTW. It was nice while it lasted, but Debian is my new friend now.
The difference here is more between release types, I think. Arch is rolling, so there are updates you can get every few minutes. Debian is a rock, and rocks aren’t known for moving a lot.
(The command is sudo pacman -Syu btw)
Björn