state of alternative discord clients
its so easy to make a better client then discord
why do so many people struggle with it ffs
@IoI_xD because they make undocumented API endpoints and footguns that make it a bitch to use
@julia @IoI_xD and they don't actively endorse developing such clients. Connecting from modded/unofficial client is ToS violation and the fact they don't do anything about it _right_now_, doesn't mean they won't in the future.
@a1ba @julia @IoI_xD also i believe they do have some detection mechanism, if you spam the API too much, or send very unexpected requests, they'll ban you.

i heard from someone developing one such client that at some point they ramped it up so much that people started getting banned for using an outdated mobile client or things like that, so while not actively enforced, you better make sure your client is bug-for-bug api compatible if you want to ensure people don't get banned
@yukijoou @julia @IoI_xD in this case better not touch Discord from a kilometer, unless really needed and only in browser, not their electron client shit
@a1ba @julia @IoI_xD i only ever use it in a browser, because their electron client is so slow lmao

also, i think you don't risk having much api difference between the browser version and the electron version, since the electron client just loads up the discord website and gives it some extra APIs for os-integration features and such
@yukijoou @julia @IoI_xD yeah, that's basically what I meant. I just don't want to let it touch anything on my computer.
@IoI_xD I mean, clearly it isn't since everyone is struggling with it
@IoI_xD because it isn't?? discord api is largely undocumented outside of the things that bots are expected to do, and also discord themselves actively go after third party clients
@halva i more meant in terms of ui, or other areas that the user has control over. for the majority of clients i've looked at, its not that its worse then discord in terms of usage, its just worse in terms of ui.
@IoI_xD i use vencord because its default theme looks nice
@walterjizz vencord is a client mod, which are usually good. i'm talking about fully custom clients.