Democrats who attack the rich do better in elections. The party should take notice

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Democrats who attack the rich do better in elections. The party should take notice - Lemmy.World

nah, they’re gonna make fun of Trump for being broke with childish nicknames instead. sink down to his level while making him sound more relatable to all the broke people they want to vote for them. sometimes i think they’re trying to lose.

Their campaign is literally “It’ll be worse under the other guy.”

Losing now is the best way for them to win in four years. It is how it has been for decades. When’s the last time one party held the presidency for two consecutive candidates? It’s a neverending metronome, except the needle moves more to the right each time.

Assuming that we’ll have fair elections in 4 years if Trump wins may prove to be one of the worst mistakes this country’s voters have ever made.
When was the last time there was a fair election? Both parties conventions cram the most unpopular candidates down your throats, and always slowly sliding to the right.
Just because something is bad doesn’t mean it can’t get much worse. Look at elections in Russia and China if you need inspiration.
You think it can get worse than an 80 year old Zionist vs an 80 year old fascist?
I literally gave you 2 glaring examples that you blatantly ignored. Since you clearly aren’t arguing in good faith at this point ill proceed to ignore you.
Ignorance is bliss, they say.
Hate to break it to you but Chinese citizens generally live better than we do. They have affordable housing, healthcare and food.
Thats nice. We’re talking about free elections here.
Actually, we were talking about American elections, and you tried to change the subject to China and Russia.

Because you seemed to have trouble wrapping your head around how much worse “unfair elections” could be, and then you still ignored those examples and tried to claim US elections couldn’t possibly get any worse.

Absolutely absurd statement. And you still cant seem to wrap your head around why that is.

I know i said I’d ignore you but you just can’t seem to stop yourself from throwing more of these shitty disingenuous arguments my way.

…?

You currently do not have fair elections. I didn’t say it couldn’t get worse.

Absolutely absurd statement. And you still cant seem to wrap your head around why that is.

I never said it couldn’t get any worse lol.

I know i said I’d ignore you but you just can’t seem to stop yourself from throwing more of these shitty disingenuous arguments my way.

You can ignore me all you want, ignorance is bliss. I’m not arguing lol. America, demonstrably doesn’t have free and fair elections. You are trying to deflect by talking about Russia and China, when your country is literally already in the same boat. Nobody wants Biden or Trump.

Go argue with yourself then:

“You think it can get worse than an 80 year old Zionist vs an 80 year old fascist?”

And leave me out of it.

You can ignore me all you want, ignorance is bliss. I’m not arguing lol. America, demonstrably doesn’t have free and fair elections. You are trying to deflect by talking about Russia and China, when your country is literally already in the same boat. Nobody wants Biden or Trump.

This entire thread started with the insinuation that we could get rid of them in 4 years. I’m saying that if things get worse we won’t even have that choice in the future. This is not a difficult concept to grasp. I provide China and Russia as simple examples to get it through your hear and you then claim I’m changing the subject. You’re the one wallowing in your own ignorance.

Hopefully I’ve cleared all this up for you now and you can let me take a shit in peace.

Are you ignoring me or slandering me, make up your mind.

THE US, RUSSIA AND CHINA: NONE OF THESE HAVE FREE ELECTIONS.

Do you understand what I’m saying now? We don’t need to bring up the other two, while we’re discussing America.

Maybe proof read your angy dump posts before hitting submit.

We have a 2 choices, they have 1. 2 is choices are better than 1, even if both choices are shitty. One shitty candidate still has to compete with the other shitty candidate to win votes. This is better than 1 shitty candidate with full reign and no accountability.

Perhaps you dislike both candidates equally, and have somehow decided that you will always hate both candidates equally, now and in the future. In that context, perhaps you think you are making a concrete point.

But I am not you. I’d prefer Biden over Trump, and I can vote for one over the other. If i couldn’t, that would be worse, for me, and many millions of other voters who don’t share your equal/perpetual disdain for both candidates.

So yes, it can get worse. If not for you, then for others, who are not you. If you still don’t understand the source of disagreement here, God have mercy on you.

Maybe this question will help you further understand;

Which candidate do you vote for if you’re against genocide?

Depends. What magical being comes down from the Heavens to end genocide in this world if I don’t vote?
So you don’t get a choice? Hmmmm what does that remind me of?
Reminds me of having more than one issue to vote about that might impact one’s life.
So you’re pro genocide lol.
You failed on your little trap but went for it anyway. Nice.
Not really… If you’re voting for Biden, who is providing the weapons for a genocide, you are pro genocide lol.

And I asked how not voting for him this cycle would stop genocide and you doubled down on your whole “see voting doesn’t matter so you’re not any better off than Russia / China” quip.

So all things being equal I consider the thousands of other issues in this world that might be affected by this election, and somehow that means I wants to murder thousands of innocent people.

How about this, if you keep replying to me with bullshit like this instead of spending your time doing something constructive to stop genocide, you support genocide.

Sounds like Biden should stop sending weapons to Israel and vow to veto any attempts to block a rail strike in his next term.