Real-world CO2 emissions of cars are 20% higher than indicated. For plug-in hybrids they are 350% higher.

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Real-world CO2 emissions of cars are 20% higher than indicated. For plug-in hybrids they are 350% higher. - Feddit.it

It’s not a tupi; plug hybrids are used in real word cases with ICE much more than anticipated. In the EU, fuel consumption monitoring devices are required on new cars. They studied over 10% of all cars sold in 2021 and turns out they use way more fuel, and generate way more CO2, than anybody thought. The gap means that CO2 emissions reduction objectives from transport will be more difficult to reach. Thruth is, we need less cars, not “better” cars.

When I saw the headline, I thought this was clickbait, since the headline and the linked article avoided quantifying how much CO2 the vehicles said they consumed vs the real world usage.

If you dig into the cited materials, it turns out it wasn’t hyperbole.

That said, I still consider it extremely poor form to omit the information the study was centering its argument around.

I dont get it. The numbers are all less for the hybrids

They are a less than full gas vehicles, but they output considerably more CO2 than they are tested and marketed to output.

Many people buy them because they believe they are a green form of transportation based on the marketing. But the real world pollution they cause makes them not very green at all.

This is a significant report, especially when you consider the source.

Thanks. It sounds like they are greener in all cases. But they’re not as green as the industry expected because people aren’t actually charging them

That and from what I understand of them they only cover about 25 miles. The reason to get a plug in hybrid vs a full plug in is generally because you need to drive more than that on average. I have a full electric from 2015 with a horrible battery, and on a single charge I can get ~50 miles at most in greater Atlanta area, GA, USA.

That’s mostly fine for me, but I once looked up the plug in hybrids for trios etc, and I sometimes forget to charge and have issues having to charge on the road. A plug in Hybrid would have saved me those minor problems, but not because of the electric part. I have a feeling anyone using a plug in hybrid is barely using the battery part of it. I get by because I mostly use the car for shopping, so on average it’s once or twice a week, all within 1 battery’s usage a day.

Or because 90% of the time you only go 25 miles and you want to occasionally go to DeKalb market a few times per year
I don’t live in a car-dependent location, so forgive my ignorance, but wouldn’t renting a petro car for those few times a year be cheaper and better for the environment to boot?
@SnipingNinja
Exactly, have a small electric car for everyday, and a few time you rent a car for the purpose. For example a pickup for carrying stuff, RV for the holiday, or something large and comfy for large distances.
So much cheaper and you always get a brand new car.
@delirious_owl
Or just use a bicycle and public transport for everyday and carshare for the purpose

The issue become, Can I get to a rental place? Do they have something to rent to me suitable for my use? Will they even rent to me? How do I get the vehicle back to the rental place? Can I afford the high cash outlay right now?

It’s not so easy to rent a car. There are lots of hoops to jump through.

Places with car sharing programs where you rent by the hour, yes.

Cities where you rent cars by the day, no.