Holy shit. I just talked a cis guy on the internet down from "Let kids be kids" and got him to see why gender-affirming care for teens absolutely cannot wait.

This is one of my greatest achievements. I have a legitimate urge to take a victory lap.

The thing that persuaded him, if you're curious:

@Impossible_PhD I'm a cis man so feel free to ignore this question. OTOH, I'm asking this question from the point of view of a parent that might need to face this in the future if their kids start feeling that way.

Would be an endgoal a society were we're not longer man and woman, but just people? Would also help if people would not care how other people dress?

Context: I'm trying to raise my kids so they don't think in terms of 'this is an activity for men, this other one for women'.

@Impossible_PhD Damn character limit.

I have a girl and a boy, and the boy sometimes uses 'girly' clothes handed down from her sister. He uses and likes pink, and luckily my daughter has gone through the pink phase. Yes, not that it would be bad if she just kept on it, I hope you understand what I mean. The only thing we're not so sure about is to allow the boy to use dresses outside the house, mostly because we haven't seen others, and we're immigrants in a country we don't know that well.

@mdione That last part is a social and national question I can't answer for you. It has little to do with gender and much more to do with social safety, which is a problem of patriarchy, not gender.