Doc ImpossibleHoly shit. I just talked a cis guy on the internet down from "Let kids be kids" and got him to see why gender-affirming care for teens absolutely cannot wait.
This is one of my greatest achievements. I have a legitimate urge to take a victory lap.
Marcos Dione@Impossible_PhD I'm a cis man so feel free to ignore this question. OTOH, I'm asking this question from the point of view of a parent that might need to face this in the future if their kids start feeling that way.
Would be an endgoal a society were we're not longer man and woman, but just people? Would also help if people would not care how other people dress?
Context: I'm trying to raise my kids so they don't think in terms of 'this is an activity for men, this other one for women'.
@mdione gender abolition, which is what you're describing, is not a real goal. It's what feminists fought for in the 90s and early 00s, but has been largely abandoned for a simple reason:
Gender abolition *in practice* becomes the abolition of womanhood in less time than it takes to cook an egg. As such, attempts to do so end up reinforcing patriarchal systems of oppression, not tearing them down.
There's a lot of reasons for this, but one of the big ones is the deep-rooted treatment of the--
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--feminine as the marked or aberrant gender, while masculinity is natural. This comes from patriarchy itself, which treats being a man as a default state of humanity, when it isn't.
And all that ignores the fact that a lot of us--myself included--love our genders, and would never willingly give them up (th other main reason degendering immediately becomes the extermination of the feminine--men like being men).
What trans folks want is a de-charging of the power dynamics attached to--
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--genders, to stand down the policing of gender boundaries, and to throw the doors wide to *more* gendered categories, not fewer.
To draw an analogy, we want gender to have the same level of stigma and import as choosing what kind of cuisine to have when you go out for dinner. Right now, we're in 1950s America. You can have steak, or you can have seafood. We want 2020s America, with not just Mexican and Italian too, but Etheopian and someone's weird fusion ideas and so much more.