stabby_cicadahow can something be so courageous and yet so true
Yes you truly need Starbucks and labtops to live
DeceptichumGenerally most people need a computer these days, yes.
As for the Starbucks not my thing, but people also need sources of enjoyment and sometimes that can be from a sweet drink.
Life isn’t about only food and water.
You don’t need a Mac though, in fact in most circumstances using a Mac actively makes performing computer necessary tasks harder than just using the local library computers.
Mac is the bougie flex of choosing to be less productive for the sake of brand clout.
You can use a Mac, and that’s fine too.
Not everyone is a Linux power user, get over yourself and your elitist computer ideology.
I use a Thinkpad with Windows because it’s cheaper and works better
If I want to use Linux I set up a VM for it to use for dev and IT busnasty
Or use what you have.
A Mac works just as well as windows, there is no “better”, only one’s preference.
Seriously get over yourself, instead of attacking such a minor thing as the brand of computer being used, focus your outrage on the system that treats the world like shit.
See you might have had a point there if Macs weren’t literally proven to be a shittier alternative.
Security classes don’t even teach about Maca because the only security advice worth giving to Mac users is “switch to Windows or Linux, it’s cheaper than anything that could be done to make this thing even remotely secure.”
This reads like something out of the comment section for a “I’m a Mac/I’m a PC” ad 15 years ago. Things have changed since then.
This is literally the most up to date security opinion on Macs at the moment, this was course material for 2021 cyber security training
FlatFootFoxWhat are you talking about? Macs are wildly popular dev machines.
I’ve been in a dev environment and have literally seen nothing of the sort
Also, wildly popular doesn’t mean wildly effective, even if that was true
I am a dec, and use a MacBook.
… to SSH into my GNU/Linux build machine
When I did dev for middleware it was all on Mac’s
Everywhere I’ve worked for the last 8 years has used Macs for developers. One place I was at started with Windows and people jumped at the opportunity to switch to a Mac when they got the option.
Macs have been standard for my software development career for more than a decade, yes.
They have a lot of Unix stuff but are pretty standardized and widely supported.
Everyone uses docker, which isn’t super great on Mac.
You use a mac because of clout and a bougie flex.
I use a mac because I get it free as a hand-me-down from work every tech refresh.
We are not the same.
I use a Thinkpad actually.
MontaggeWhy don’t you carve into clay tablets with reeds? You don’t need a bougie Thinkpad.
Imagine being so offended on behalf of a shitty overpriced brand of computers used as bougie status symbols that you compare a different brand to clay tablets and reeds.
Completely blinded by hubris
As someone who has worked a help desk for nearly a decade now, and hates Mac’s and Apple with a general burning passion:
Suggesting that modern windows 11 is any more usable than MacOS for a general “browse thw web and check email” user, is ridiculous.
Furthermore, some educational programs, jobs, courses, software, may in fact mean that a person has a requirement for a Mac, even if they can’t afford the Mac. >!Though I imagine your response to this will simply be “just dont do the things that need a Mac if you want to complain about capitalism 4head”!<
I have bought plenty of things that I don’t really need, but I don’t act like capitalism made me do it and I would die without them.
No one does.
Criticism of capitalism is far beyond purchasing simple goods.
Did you read the same thing I did? Its saying you either participate in capitalism or die. The “participating” its referring to is a macbook and Starbucks.
Needs more words
CorrodedIt’s because they aren’t using a used ThinkPad
XanthraxAsus > Lenovo
Not really supporting either business by buying a used laptop tho?
When people make memes about you using it, you’re supporting the company with good exposure. They should be grateful.
I’m down with that, too. Depends on your needs, though.
Are there Asus laptops out there that support the same level of reparability/upgradability as ThinkPads?
Yes! Here’s one example: www.asus.com/us/laptops/…/asus-br1402c/
Like I said, they don’t offer as many external accessories, but they’re pretty close.
That’s kind of neat. At that price point it seems kind of in between a ThinkPad and Framework laptop.
Cool but kinda slow. Would be okay as a Linux machine I imagine, but so would a used ThinkPad.
I AM using an old thinkpad! Huzzah!
Damn you capitalism for forcing me to buy a mac!
Could’ve been a gift
I’m no Apple fan but I’m scratching my head at this comment. Would any other brand of laptop be “less capitalist” somehow ? Just because they are less overpriced than macs ?
Also, having seen new macs, if I wasn’t into gaming the m chip macs seem better for the price than anything else on the market. 🤷♂️
Performance wise? No not any more. Price wise? Again no. Screen quality wise? Only on the Pro. Battery life wise? Yes, with very few exceptions.
Really? I thought I saw multiple benchmarks with the m-chips blowing all the other Intel and AMD chips out of the water.
I think you have been looking at Apple Benchmarks. M-series isn’t the fastest in Multi-Core now or when it was released, though it might have been fastest when the first Max chip came out, hard to tell. They had a small lead in Single Core at one point though I think. It might be faster than the latest AMD by a small lead depending which benchmarks you look at.
nanoreview.net/…/intel-core-i9-13900k-vs-apple-m3…
Ah okay! Thank you for providing sources. It still seems like a competitive chip, but I see I was wrong about it being outright better.
I think the first two comparisons are a little unfair (unless I’m mistaken) since those are both desktop spec chips and apple doesn’t realllyyy do desktops anymore.
The second one is a laptop chip, you maybe need to brush up on CPU naming. I actually meant to have a laptop chip for the first as well but I made an error. M3 Max is used in both desktop and laptops. Stop thinking of M series in terms of desktop or laptop, it’s meant to be a multi purpose chip. Even with Intel and AMD you see chips and dies getting reused between desktops and laptops.
Anyway here is one with an Intel laptop chip: nanoreview.net/…/intel-core-i9-14900hx-vs-apple-m…
Although if we are comparing desktop only chips then AMD have Threadripper Pro and Apple has M3 Ultra. I am pretty sure I know who comes out on top (hint: it’s the one with up to 96 cores)
Ohhh I missed the “H” when I read that. My bad.
Mac Pro? First Ultra class chip came in Mac Studio. They missed an opportunity to call it a Mac Pro Mini.
They’ve actually improved cooling a fair bit. The two chips I mentioned though are definitely power hungry though. That Intel chip can use up to 115W sustained. I don’t think I want to know what the burst power is. The larger MacBook Pro might actually be able to get close to that (I think Apple’s solution is on the order of 100W if you push both CPU and GPU simultaneously). Yeah the Apple system is considerably lower power once you start looking at GPUs as well.
Apple is by far the most monopolistic tech company you can choose from.
But… While capitalism naturally leads to monopolies, capitalism can’t function under monopolies, so I guess supporting the most monopolistic company is going against capitalism…
Framework perhaps
PsychadelligoatWhen I went through college I had to get a MacBook as part of my kit
Literally couldn’t use a different device if I wanted to because of forced app usage (when there were cross platform alternatives that would work just fine)
I’ve also worked somewhere that forced a MacBook onto me as a work device but also allowed us to sticker it up if we wanted cuz they weren’t gonna take it back until it was basically useless anyway
Many places one can get a mac, a couple of them are actually forced on you
How can it have so many words yet still have incomplete sentences lol
And additionally progress of society has always to be driven by immanent critique, wich is critique from inside the given historical social order.
Who would criticise human society if not its humans? How would any will to change it ever emerge?
MrMakabarMacs naturally can not be stolen or bought second hand.
Huh? You can absolutely change mac ownership if the current associated account holder is involved. It’s a very simple process.
Now, if you need to remove an activation lock without the involvement of the registered account holder, it’s a huge pain in the ass (had to go through this with a work laptop a year ago).
Sarcasm, friend
starman2112Oh shit, I wonder if that means then person in the original picture could have gotten that Mac secondhand for less than $1,200
JacobCoffinWritesI don’t know how fancy that one is but I’ve pulled at least five working MacBooks from corporate ewaste. All were out of their absurdly-short OS support but Linux Mint (and I’m assuming a bunch of other distros) run great on them. I’ve handed all of them off since reinstalling but I liked the hardware enough to use one as a writing computer until someone needed it.
wizardbeardUgh, corporate eWaste. I do tech work for a company, and outside of getting verbal approval from someone high enough up to take home two monitors when we acquired another company and we were doing an all hands on deck full replacement of their gear, there’s never been a way for me to recycle waste gear for personal use that wouldn’t put my employment at risk.
No process for letting employees recycle or reclaim gear. Chuck it in the dedicated bin, once a month a third party recycler comes around, takes it away. Supposedly they wipe or destroy the drives, but no word on what they do with the rest of it. Can’t find a damn thing on where/how they resell it, and I’ve spoken with the person in charge of purchasing and depreciating our hardware. Seen way too much hardware tossed that could go to great use, just not as a desktop anymore.
Like, my own collection of old hardware doesn’t have anything in it newer than a decade old, and it’s all budget stuff acquired from family.
Meanwhile there’s four year old business grade desktops being effectively thrown away that I’m seeing go for $300 used. Just let me build my home network without going broke dammit!
tjhart85Yup, my last 2 MBP laptops have been from a junk pile and came to me free/cheap from a buddy who was able to grab a bunch.
All in all, everything I do on a laptop is in a webui, a terminal or within a remote VM so I mostly dgaf about what it can natively run, but the hardware is great and it can load the nix (and brew) package managers, so I really haven't found much that I want it to do that it can't. Hell, even games I can just Steam Link to another machine and play if I want.
My last job was disposing of a 2021 model and I was dumb enough to ask if I could have it rather than just taking it and got told no ... Sold for scrap by the pound! I could have left a 10$ bill in it's place and theyd have gotten more profit, fucking ridiculous.
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