Mastodawn

Mar 21, 2024

Remember in Blues Brothers when they end up at the Nazi rally and the point isn't even that Jake really hates Nazis, it's that Nazis are about the biggest losers that anyone could imagine. They are portrayed as completely pathetic dead-ender assholes.

Or in the Rocketeer when the mobsters find our the Sinclair guy is a Nazi and join forces with the FBI to stop them because Nazis are clearly the worst thing.

Or when Christopher Plummer rips the Nazi flag in two in Sound of Music.

None of these films were making bold political statements. The Nazis were the bad guys because that was something that everyone in the audience could agree one. Dunking on Nazis was a guaranteed crowd pleaser.

When the hell did we stop agreeing on something so simple and self-evident as Nazis Are Fucking Losers?

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Ricki Yasha Tarr Mar 21, 2024

@theropologist Nazis are fucking losers! Let's all agree.

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Phil Landmeier Mar 21, 2024

@RickiTarr @theropologist Certain personality types are strongly attracted to right-wing ideas (and police work). Some "social misfits" (for lack of a better term) is one such.

But before we point fingers It's good to bear in mind that these social misfits were created by society / family / circumstances and we're not dealing with that. The young man with an eating disorder, who can't succeed with the ladies or jobs, who lives in his mother's basement and plays with guns has problems and needs that society is not addressing. He's marginalized and looks for ways to gain more personal power. Right-wing ideas are very attractive to him. Joining a right-wing group also provides camaraderie and sense of belonging to a family.

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Ricki Yasha Tarr Mar 21, 2024

@shuttersparks @theropologist I do understand what you're saying, but lots of people have issues, and lots of people don't decide they are superior to other people and certain people need to be put in camps. That's why I think that as a culture Nazism should be treated with absolute scorn and derision. I do agree we should treat people with compassion and try to understand where they are coming from, but some things we should make look as unattractive as possible. There is also a certain level of personal responsibility that people should take, if you treat women like objects, you need to understand that you probably won't get women, if you never make an effort to improve yourself, you can't just say you're being marginalized.

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Blahster

@RickiTarr @shuttersparks @theropologist he is not speaking about Nazis, he is speaking about people getting on the path to become one - they are the ones who you can actually help... or could, if anyone would care.