Ok I’m doin the thread I said I wanted to do last week. (feel free to mute unless you enjoy a little second-hand drama as a Monday morning treat)

Attn #devrel people! Are you job hunting? Does this pic of search results look familiar? Have you ever seen a bunch of job postings like this from Canonical and thought “gee I should apply to one of these”?

I’m here to tell you:

IT’S A TRAP! 🧵

In early 2023 I spent ~3 months interviewing for this role at Canonical: I made it all the way to Shuttleworth himself turning me down.

The same req# I applied to is live today: watch and you’ll start to notice this globally-remote job regularly re-posted across multiple major cities in order to keep the linkedin search spam fresh.

IMO this role goes unfilled as long as they’re private. If you’re still not convinced, allow me to share my cautionary tale…

HOW I ALMOST GOT A JOB AT CANONICAL

So let me be super clear: I read all the HN threads, the Reddit discussions, and the Glassdoor reviews, and (I thought) I knew what I was getting into with their interview process. I still chose to apply because Canonical, and this role in particular, is a niche within a niche, and it’s *my* niche. I would have kicked ass.

If you’re actually considering applying you probably feel the same way.

Okay so what you really want to know about is the application & interview process. Let’s go.

1: THE ESSAY QUESTIONS

Google it, glassdoor it, read the HN and reddit threads. Everyone knows about these. I knew about them going into it. I did it anyway. I wrote 18 pages. Pic is 1 of 4 sections (~30 Qs total).

Fun fact about me: I never went to high school!

(This is called “foreshadowing”)

2. THE IQ TEST

Sorry I mean "psychometric assessments”. Rotate shapes in your head. Spot the odd word out in a group of related words. Timed number-related tasks. Nonsense that has no actual relevance to work performance. I scored “above average” on these, for exactly what that is worth.

3. ACTUALLY TALKING TO HUMANS

Finally! We’re weeks into the process at this point.

An initial round of four hour-long technical and skill-assessment interviews. These were actually quite enjoyable, and the individual interviewers were as a whole lovely people.

Of note: every interviewer warned me, unprompted, in various words that the CEO was "difficult".

4. JUST KIDDING MORE TESTS

A timed personality test. "Pick which of these words most applies to you", ad infinitum.

5. A WILD HUMAN APPEARS

After “passing” the personality test, an hour-long behavioral interview with a real-life HR person; textbook STAR-method questions. At the end of the hour I was able to discuss comp and benefits for the first time. I learned the role reported directly to the CEO.

6. “LATE STAGE”: MORE HUMANS

At this point I’m notified I’ve made it to the “late stage”. Three *more* hour-long technical and skill-based interviews are scheduled. Again, these were fine, reasonably challenging, and the individuals themselves completely pleasant to speak with.

8. THE VERBAL OFFER

Canonical apps are run by a “hiring lead” who’s not a recruiter or the hiring manager. After months of emails, I finally get a call from my lead.

On the call I learn his "only concern" was my personality test indicated I was not "dominant" enough. Canonical wants dominant people. He asks me to persuade him I can do the job. Whatever I said apparently worked: "he would like to move forward with an offer". The offer just has to clear finance, HR, and CEO approval.

I wait.

9. INTERVIEW WITH A CEO

An hour-long interview with the CEO is scheduled. I’m excited to finally speak to the de facto hiring manager. To finally get to talk about my vision for the role and my philosophies of management and devrel. I also prep for more technical skill grilling just in case.

Plus, like, I’m a fuckin fangirl, right? I’m looking forward to this call.

10. THE CALL

Mark begins our call by saying: "I've read your essay responses. You say you didn't go to high school. Generally I only want people who are in the top 5%. You obviously can't prove that applies to you. So tell me why I should believe you were the equivalent to the top 5% of your peers at 16."

The next hour is spent picking through my educational background and early employment choices. To be clear, I’m an old lady: this is not recent history. He wanted to know what standardized exam I took to get into college and what I scored. He asked if I could "prove" that score. He wanted to know why I chose my major and school. He asked about a specific place I lived near >20 years ago, and I realize he’s looking at a map as we talk. We run over-time.

We never did talk about the actual work.

11. THE END

The day after that call I received a curt rejection email saying Canonical would not be moving forward with me as a candidate. I asked if there was any feedback, and I hear that the CEO call "could have gone better" and I "had not persuaded Mark that I had a strong understanding of what Canonical needs".

With their three months of assessment and notes on me, I ask what next steps would be if I wanted to explore other roles at the company. I never received a response.

BY THE NUMBERS

Pages of essays written: 18
Psychometric evaluations: 3
Personality test: 1
Number of interviews: 10+
Days between first and last contact: 107
Number of women I spoke to throughout the entire fucking process: 0
Emotional trauma: priceless

If you’ve made it this far, 1) congrats, 2) I hope you hear what I’m trying to say:

Until the company moves forward… don’t waste your time on a Canonical job posting. You’re worth more than that!

My tale has a happy ending and I’m very pleased with where I landed not long after this saga, so this is now just a funny story-slash-cautionary tale.

BUT I know a lot of good #devrel people who *are* looking for new gigs today, and I’d love to introduce you to them -- if you’re hiring give a shout!

@sara as someone who recently went through the process for a normal software engineering role...
my process wasn't nearly as bad on the interview side ("only" three technical interviews plus one with HR and one with my recruiter) but it's still a pretty badly done process...

The two things that bothered me the most (aside from the kinda insane time investment, especially the written interview) were:

- the location part of the recruitment spam on LinkedIn. It's all 100% remote, and they do not sponsor visa. There wouldn't be much of a point since there are no offices anyway. The location part of the posting is completely meaningless as far as I could tell. As someone who also applied for the role because of the location, that was quite frustrating.
- I could only talk about my salary expectations in the 4th interview. They told me they could pay only like 60% of my expectation.
Both of these points wouldn't inherently be a problem, or at least not that bad, if I didn't find out about this only after 3 months of written interview, programming test, two psychometric tests and 4 interviews. This was ultimately a massive waste of time for all parties involved.