spujbMar 15, 2024

stan teachers unions

https://lemmy.cafe/post/3604162

stan teachers unions - Lemmy Cafe

and reminder that the opportunity cost of a few days’ strike is far outweighed by teachers being overworked to the bone without adequate compensation or psychological support, resulting in the best teachers weeding themselves out of the field altogether. anti-union sentiment is hurting kids.

Show threadBmeBenjiMar 15, 2024
Teachers in America are paid and treated like absolutely noone cares about them. Without them, prisons would be even more overpopulated, the wealth gap would be a wealth chasm, events of bigotry would skyrocket, parents would have to pay for daycare, children would go without lunch, etc. Honestly I have a hard time imagining anything in this shithole getting significantly better without improving funding for teachers and schools. However, I think that’s the exact reason they aren’t funded-better.
Show threadwanderingmagusMar 16, 2024
You mean everything you mention isn’t already happening in multiple states?
Show threadspujbMar 18, 2024
love forcing words into another’s mouth, it’s my favorite thing to do online
Show threadwanderingmagus
“Without them” implied that with them (status quo) the consequences listed would not be occurring.
Mar 18, 2024 at 4:29amWeb
Show threadspujbMar 18, 2024

goodness gracious. every phrase following “without them” was a phrase describing a growth scenario of something that already exists:

  • “would be even more overpopulated”
  • “would skyrocket”
  • “wealth gap” -> “wealth chasm” …implying that with the status quo the consequences listed would still be occurring, but stating that without teachers it would be _worse. please. ohmygosh.

without teachers reading comprehension would dive out of control but it’s already pretty bad. 😪😪😪

Show threadwanderingmagusMar 18, 2024

How about

parents would have to pay for daycare, children would go without lunch, etc. ? Are parents not already forced to pay for daycare, children not already going without lunch?

Show threadspujbMar 18, 2024

bruh. okay nitpick their grammar then instead of saying

you mean everything (emphasis mine) you mention isn’t already happening in multiple states?

Show threadwanderingmagusMar 18, 2024
Shipmate, I’m pointing out that the system as it already stands is pretty much exactly as shit as they say it would become should the situation change. Each attempt to merely increase wages here and there is like putting a bandage on a gangrenous wound or a tumor, instead of realizing that the tumor itself needs to be surgically removed for all these symptoms - the American prison system, for-profit childcare, normalized hunger as a punishment for poverty and so on - to be actually treated. Believe it or not, I’m on your side.
Show threadspujbMar 18, 2024
see my edit. and i don’t know what shipmate means.
Show threadwanderingmagusMar 18, 2024
Force of habit from almost a decade in the Navy, it’s a term of “endearment” that was intended by politicians and bureaucrats to be a “polite” term that can be universally applied regardless of rank, but is usually applied out of exasperation when actual insult isn’t warranted. Apologies for the unfamiliar term.
Show threadspujbMar 18, 2024
oh lol i thought it was some chess reference i somehow was unaware of
Show threadwanderingmagusMar 18, 2024
It would totally make sense for some sailor to use it that way too after a night on liberty in port, but alas no.
Show threadspujbMar 18, 2024
thanks for the clarification :) i believe you are on my side but im still gonna maintain that you badly maligned the meaning of the commenter’s post lol. i put the remainder of my thoughts here
stan teachers unions - Lemmy Cafe

and reminder that the opportunity cost of a few days’ strike is far outweighed by teachers being overworked to the bone without adequate compensation or psychological support, resulting in the best teachers weeding themselves out of the field altogether. anti-union sentiment is hurting kids.