Eternal reminder: misogyny is not incidental to Nazism and fascism. It is a core component of these ideologies.

That's especially true for the contemporary online far right, which is why MRA and incel culture is such a fertile recruitment ground for capital-N Nazis.

https://www.mediamatters.org/manosphere/misogynistic-manosphere-influencers-embrace-nazism?s=09

Misogynistic manosphere influencers embrace Nazism

Right-wing “manosphere” influencers including Sneako, Jon Zherka, and Myron Gaines are embracing Nazism and defending Adolf Hitler online. These influencers — who have large followings across multiple platforms — have histories of making antisemitic comments and pushing conspiracy theories about Jewish people, but their pro-Hitler and Nazism commentary marks an escalation.   Over the past year, these three figures have praised and defended Hitler, done the Nazi Seig Heil salute while streaming, and refused to disavow Nazism.  These influencers are part of the manosphere, an online community of right-wing websites, bloggers, and personalities cultivating a worldview based on conservative and regressive gender politics repackaged for the internet age.  While purporting to provide dating, financial, and lifestyle advice to men, some manosphere figures are aligning themselves with far-right personalities. Their online presence can serve as a gateway to push audiences further to the right toward more dangerous ideologies, as they often use other topics that interest young men — like weightlifting, video games, and boxing — to draw viewers in before diving into extremist content and misogyny. Figures in this group often push extremism and antisemitism while blaming women for myriad societal woes and treating them as an inferior sex. Rhetoric from these influencers can sometimes be overtly cruel and promote hitting, degrading, and shaming women.

Media Matters for America
@gwensnyder I'm gonna get killed for this, but here goes. There are at least two parts of this equation. Girls seeing Boys as all predators creates this problem as well. Its not just boys seeing this shit online, its girls too. We should talk about that more.

@lightninhopkins @gwensnyder it is worth exploring, but it's very easy to be reductive about it. why would women see men as predators? should women be the ones to fix that problem, or could men be looking at how they could ameliorate that perception.
men are overrepresented in the victim statistics of violent crime. the perpetrators are also almost entirely male. men are not inherently more violent, so what factors are contributing to this? how can they be mitigated?

i apologise for my tone, i have had this discussion many times with many people and it is rarely constructive.

@thegarbagebird @gwensnyder honestly I don't know the answer. I am not a sociologist. I do have two sons are in their teens and it is troubling to me what social media does if one of them is dating someone. It's nuts. If you are dating someone you are attacked.

@lightninhopkins @gwensnyder hmm. with respect, i disagree.

not with your experience, raising boys is a nightmare, especially when you acknowledge the previous constraints. it's very difficult to usher boys into a world where they will have expectations placed upon them that you cannot control, nor even really prepare them for.

i disagree with your absolutism.

although to be perfectly honest, i am not a manly man, so we are really talking about totally different versions of masculinity, you are working under a series of constraints that causes dudes who dude like me to get called the eff slur for not dude-ing right, i am working with a version of masculinity that has never felt the need to prove to other dudes that i dude hard enough.

i understand that makes me the outsider in this discussion, and your concept of dating being something that gets your sons called out on tiktok because they opened a door for a girl is rooted in a reality that i cannot access.
DO NOT BE REDUCTIVE.

@lightninhopkins i would like to thank you for taking this conversation in a refreshing direction. this is very much a “HENRY CAVILL OPENS UP: I CAN'T SPEAK TO A WOMAN WITHOUT BEING ACCUSED OF SEXUAL ASSAULT” vibe.

i like this. it's fun to explore.
people read that type of headline and they pick one of two options.
1. famous man henry cavill is a woman-hating caveman
2. famous man henry cavill is being cancelled by the femenazis because he tried to open a door for a woman once, or maybe looked at boobs.

@lightninhopkins for fuck’s fucking sake. i swear, i have tried to continue this post three different times.

i beg your forebearance

@lightninhopkins lol bear ants
@thegarbagebird I think you are missing the point. What I am talking about is kids, their age, at their school, making a relationship into fodder for their social media.

@lightninhopkins it's less that i missed the point, and more that i forgot that i was in this current conversation, and decided to have the other conversations that i mentioned earlier instead of this one.
i straight up got so distracted by the ghosts of discourse past that i never ended up tying whatever grand thesis i was working on back to the content era.
and of course, now it's the next day, i have no idea where the fuck i was on about yesterday.

you're right. everything is content. we let the attention economy happen because it was good for the actual economy. i am with you, let's go smash the spinning jenny.