Trump Declares It Will Be a ‘Bloodbath’ for America if He’s Not Elected

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Trump Declares It Will Be a ‘Bloodbath’ for America if He’s Not Elected - Lemmy.World

Imagine what will happen if he does get elected then
The desperation is getting downright gross.
That’s a terroristic threat.
Except consequences - and facts - do not seem to ever stick to him. He’s already been impeached, twice, after causing more “excess deaths” than all wars combined (except the Civil War - or maybe we passed that marker too? tbf not all of that is on him, though surely a lot of it is, e.g. lying about the virus being airborne). And now there’s a not insignificant chance that he will be re-elected again.

His most damning action leading to Covid deaths happened about 18-months before the virus really hit.

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When the next pandemic occurs (and make no mistake, it will) and the federal government is unable to respond in a coordinated and effective fashion to protect the lives of US citizens and others, this decision by John Bolton and Donald Trump will be why. https://t.co/iMSzopSRaI

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When Trump/pandemic is brought up I say, “It could have happened to any President, but it was definitely going to happy to Trump.”

The last two dem>gop Presidential transitions followed a similar template.

When Clinton handed off to Bush, he warned of Osama Bin Laden as priority #1–the Bush whitehouse welcomed the idea as a pretense to invade Iraq, so nothing was done and the attacks happened.

When Obama handed off to Trump, he warned of pandemic threat and the response team which was put together to mitigate a pandemic’s spread before reaching US shores—the Trump Whitehouse did less than nothing, they actually shut down the response team and welcomed the pandemic to come (likely at Putin’s direction, I can’t imagine Trump being so selectively focused on budgeting, unless directed by his boss).

Yeah, Obama got lucky and learned a big lesson from it, tried to pass on that lesson to his successor and it fell on deaf ears. I mean really, it’s not a surprise, the contempt shown was beyond political, it was pathological.
Yup. Same in the UK with Boris fucking Johnson. COVID would be difficult for a competent and caring government yet it was a perfect set of circumstances for a clusterfuck when governments opted for populism instead.

He also deregulated the FCC, the SEC, and trains. I dunno, I seem to recall hearing some stuff about train derailments that seem to me to be directly traceable back to those decisions…

Also, while he is not directly responsible for Russia invading Ukraine, he likewise directed our response - e.g. “you have to do me a favor though” (which iirc is literally treasonous).

Also, well there’s a lot of also’s.:-( Unfortunately, we may get to start working on a whole second listing:-(.

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Fuck me, I completely forgot that. He fucked up directly with coronavirus so hard, it had completely slipped my mind that he dismantled the pandemic response for no reason other than to spite Obama. He is a fractal fuckup. You can zoom in at any scale and see the same fuckups, narcissism, and corruption.

a fractal fuckup. You can zoom in at any scale and see the same fuckups

I’m gonna steal that at some point. Hope you don’t mind.

Please feel free and enjoy.

The problem I see that doesn’t get mentioned enough is he has literally built a cult around himself. This makes it extra difficult to make him face consequences because he can easily turn himself into a martyr in his cult’s eyes, which exacerbates the problem even more.

I think the cases brought against him already took so long because they knew they had to be air tight. Any legal wiggle room gives him more ammo to say “See, witch-hunt!”

IMO, the best thing that could happen for America is for him to die of natural consequences. It would deflate his cult as they tried to reconcile him being the god-delivered savior of the US and him just dying suddenly of natural causes. There would likely be conspiracies, as there always are, but it may be enough to snap some of the less radicalized out of this fucking trance he has them in.

We’ve also seen that his lackeys cannot play his game as well as he can. The hammer would fall easily on those left in his wake.

I dunno, at this point - as always - the person most singly damaging to Trump’s brand is the man himself. His people don’t worship him so much as the ideals that he represents. They KNOW who he is, they simply do not care. And if he died, they would just move on to the next one - we thought DeSantis but similarly to Trump himself, his own shortcomings got in the way, and unlucky for him Trump did not step back + he (DeSantis) simply could not force the issue on his own.

And unfortunately, there is a lot of truth to the idea that the Democrats suck ass. If the question is “what is 1+1=?”, the Dems answer is a million, whereas the old-school (e.g. Tea Party) Repubs answer was negative Pluto, while the Alt Right would fuck your mom and kill your dog (or maybe get them confused and vice versa). i.e. there are a lot of ways to be wrong, but they are not equally so.

His conservative base is not nearly so “Pro-Trump” as they are “anti-libtards”. Which should worry us all, b/c McCartyism has touched this nation before, and those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it. Anyway, yeah they would move on, and yeah those others would not be supported quite as strongly, but I don’t think this would actually matter, in terms of people showing up to vote to swing an election? If anything, it could even help Repubs chances, for those middle-of-the-road voters who definitely do not want to vote for Biden yet did not want to vote for Trump, and would consider voting for a different Republican.

I do believe that is the point.

[Trump] warned on Saturday that there will be a “bloodbath” for the auto industry if he doesn’t win the election this November.

Emphasis mine. Defending Trump is the last thing I’m interested in doing, but doesn’t this context change the meaning entirely? If I didn’t know any better, I’d think this article was planted by MAGA asshats to make it look to potential conservatives as though liberals can’t be trusted to define words like “insurrection” and “incitement”.

very stable genius /s

(maybe stable referred to the places they keep the horses in. idk. i’m not a native speaker. 🤷)

We do not negotiate with the repubes

While Trump’s eyebrow-raising remarks may have invoked visions of the January 6, the ex-president was specifically making his comments in relation to car manufacturers.

Important context.

Context is a tool of fascists. We get told our feelings by these media outlets and go with it.
It’s not an incitement to violence. Far from it. He would never suggest that. You misunderstood him. Just like all those people on Jan 6th.

Clickbait headline. The quote was “bloodbath for the auto industry.” Takes it from a threat of anarchy to a simple negative assessment of the auto industry.

There’s plenty to not like about this shitbag without getting sensationalist about it.

Yeah, even the linked article’s headline says auto industry. Trump sucks enough, we don’t need to make up quotes for him.

“Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole—that’s going to be the least of it. It’s gonna be a bloodbath for the country,” he declared.

Except he doubled down and also said there would be a bloodbath for the country. Other headlines found this to be more important.
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Not really. From the article:

“Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole—that’s going to be the least of it. It’s gonna be a bloodbath for the country,” he declared.

While the context may have been “auto industry,” the message was clear.

While the context may have been “auto industry,” the message was clear.

Yes, but the context is also that bloodbath doesn’t mean a literally blood bath.

All this type of deception does is give Trump supporters an out and the ability to claim that Trump is not a threat to the country, by pointing out that this claim is a lie. Stop defending it. It’s a blatant lie, so much so that they had to change the title of the article already (the OP correctly copied what was originally posted, it now says “auto industry” instead of America).

The dailybeast is a far left media source with questionable credibility when it comes to reporting the facts. Don’t step up to the plate to defend their blatant deception. If we want to claim that we are on the side of rationality and logic, it’s best to call out the BS from your own side when you see it.

I mean, he literally said blood bath for the country. Not really any other way to take that. For his supporters and fearful on-the-fencers they can think up all sorts of literal blood bath scenarios and many figurative interpretations. The Daily Beast is no high bar outlet but he did say what he said.
Exactly. All these people listening to what he said before or after, looking at the context, are fascists. We have his one word quote. That’s all the proof I need to reinforce my existing opinion.
Mate you seem desperate to find balance via a critical eye when what’s happening is your bias against a publication is showing.
He’s an old man spewing word salad. He just says shit and people interpret him like augury because none of it actually makes sense. 🙄
He’s also the front runner for the us president seat. Don’t fucking downplay this shit just because you’re uncomfortable an old man is saying crazy shit.
Yeah, that little bit of context changes things a lot.
Well its not like opening the link helps, i got a pop up that wouldnt load so thus i couldnt read what it said. Thanks for the info, still shitty.
Sometimes the best way to remove cancer is through surgical extraction… America is sick, and he is the largest symptom. We should probably get to the bottom of this disease after we remove this specific tumor.
with a 9 mm scalpel or what are we thinking
Yeah, you’ve pretty much got the idea
Did you edit the title or did daily beast edit it after you posted it?
Trump Declares It Will Be a ‘Bloodbath’ for Auto Industry if He’s Not Elected

While Trump’s eyebrow-raising remarks may have invoked visions of the January 6, the ex-president was specifically making his comments in relation to car manufacturers.

The Daily Beast
The man’s propensity for violence while being a complete coward is a blatant character flaw.

“…for the auto industry” Did they just edit a clickbait ass title?

Disdain Trump, but shitty media isn’t helping.

And “for the country”.

“Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole—that’s going to be the least of it. It’s gonna be a bloodbath for the country,” he declared.

Trump went on to reiterate that China will not be able to sell any of their vehicles in the United States if he comes out the victor this November.

The judicial institutions of America are letting terrorism happen.
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This.

If he didn’t know a certain segment was excitable to violence due to his speech when he was first elected, he certainly knows now. Yet, he continues with similar and even increasingly frequent speech.

So sick of this asshole. Just go away already.
If I said that I’d be in Jail!
Sure sounds like a threat to democracy to me…
Threatening democracy is the only policy he’s consistent on.
Also giving reach-arounds to every dictator and authoritarian he can find. He totally looks up to them.
Can he just be quiet for once? Why is he even saying that? It’s a death threat but I think he’s too stupid to realize it. This is probably why so many of your family members don’t want to help on your campaign. Melania, Barron, Ivanka, Jared… and Tiffany and her husband. You don’t have to talk every time you are interviewed. You can ignore or decline requests to talk. Lord knows you do that enough with invoices.

Read the article. He said it will be a blood bath … for the auto industry.

Where is the line between a clickbait-y title and just bad journalism ? Because that article crossed it like a champ.

Well, yeah, the venezuelans and their tren de Aragua will ruin the cities that they arrive like they did in my country if he doesn’t win and build a wall around Venezuela or something. I unno what plan trump has this time. 🧐😱🥺

Well, yeah, the venezuelans and their tren de Aragua will ruin the cities that they arrive like they did in my country if he doesn’t win and build a wall around Venezuela or something. I unno what plan trump has this time. 🧐😱🥺/S

Bruh. You gotta cool it with your Venezuelan hate. People are people. You’re mad at a specific gang that came into your country and “ruined your city.” Not at Venezuelans in general. Xenophobia isn’t a good look. We’ve been over this before.

Bring it, you fucking coward

Not sure if the source changed the headline or if you did.

The current headline reads: “Trump Declares It Will Be a ‘Bloodbath’ for Auto Industry if He’s Not Elected”

Removing as misleading.