Stopthatgirl7Mar 15, 2024

It wasn't just the goblins — is J.K. Rowling doing Holocaust denial now?

https://lemmy.world/post/13138715

It wasn't just the goblins — is J.K. Rowling doing Holocaust denial now? - Lemmy.World

The most famous forms of Holocaust denial and revisionism tend to focus on Jews, casting doubt, for example, on how many were exterminated in the camps. But denying the impact the Nazis had on the other groups they targeted, including queer and trans people, disabled people and Romani people, is still Holocaust denial. Maybe someone should tell J.K. Rowling.

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But denying the impact the Nazis had on the other groups they targeted, including queer and trans people, disabled people and Romani people, is still Holocaust denial.

That’s stupidity and moron behaviour, not holocaust denial, can you even comprehend the sheer difference between no. of holocaust victims and other targeted groups, one was planned and constructed for exterminating a specific race.

Stop pandering your bullshit, comparing everything to the holocaust is just demeaning and takes away the seriousness of the impact of the horror of the Holocaust.

Mar 15, 2024 at 6:57amWeb
Show threadKilling_SparkMar 15, 2024

Trans, gay, Romani, Black people all got deported to concentration camps as well as jews. The death machinery worked against a lot of people, even if it was designed to exterminate jews.

They even had a badgesystem to visually identify for what “crime” someone was in the camp.

…wikipedia.org/…/Identification_of_inmates_in_Naz…

Edit: As well as other groups of people, a complete lists is basically impossible. Communists where early victims, but disabled people where also brought to the camps and killed for the “Volksgesundheit”.

Identification of inmates in Nazi concentration camps - Wikipedia

Show threadmods_are_assholesMar 15, 2024

You can’t become more right just by being angry

Your summarized argument is thus:

It’ can’t be Holocaust denial because I’m only denying PART of the Holocaust

Correct?

If so, then you are wrong. Sorry, I don’t make the rules but you really should follow them.

Show threadadminMar 15, 2024

Your summarized argument is thus:

It’ can’t be Holocaust denial because I’m only denying PART of the Holocaust

Correct?

No, My argument is one is history illiterate asshole while the other is special-grade asshole, and putting both under the same blanket gives the latter one more power,

Just like there are stupid people who think the moon landing is fake and then there are anti-vaxxers, one is just stupid while the latter is much more destructive and potentially harmful to society.

they can be categorized in one but we need separation to neutralize the potential damage they can cause.

Show threadmods_are_assholesMar 15, 2024
This goal post shift is so long reached, you probably needed to get a city permit to move it.
Show threadLeviathanMar 15, 2024

one is history illiterate asshole while the other is special-grade asshole

I contend that they are the same type of asshole with the same goal but they present their arguments in a way that makes a portion of the populace jump ever so slightly onto their side. If they can get people to agree that one portion of the Holocaust was more tragic than another then they have already begun to chip away at what made the Holocaust so horrendous. Holocaust denial isn’t about not thinking it happened, it’s about pretending they think it didn’t happen to devillainize their side. Just because they picked one group affected by the Holocaust over another doesn’t make it any less Holocaust denial, it just makes it Holocaust denial that doesn’t bother you, meaning they won.

First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me

Classic nazi tactic to come for groups you don’t care about so they can eventually come for you.

Show threadrambarooMar 15, 2024

Fuck off with your bullshit. The Nazis DID deliberately target sexual minorities and other groups, in fact sexual minorities were the first people they went after.

This is absolutely Holocaust denial. Fucking Nazi-defending homophobe.

Show threadadminMar 15, 2024

Fucking Nazi-defending homophobe.

hitler and Nazi-defending is like a prefix of disagreement, but a homophobe, where does that come from, that is too specific, If you think I am defending J.K then doesn’t transphobe makes more sense and if you go by the logic that I hate queer people shouldn’t it is anti-queer or queerphobe?

Show threadCptEnderMar 15, 2024

Lmao this is the guy who’s like “hey Nazis suck but…”

Then 2 years later you see him sig hailing on some Facebook pic and like “yupppp”

What a tool.

Show threadrambarooMar 16, 2024

Hey buddy, l that sounds like projection. Just because you’re already cool with Nazis and fascists as long as they vote Democrat doesn’t mean the rest of us are.

If you lived in 1930s Germany you’d be the loser telling us to vote for Hindenburg to “stop the Nazis”, right before he made Hitler chancellor.

It’s always centrists who end up saluting a dictator. Cowards. Go fuck yourself, Nazi lover

Show threadrambarooMar 16, 2024
Youb blatantly minimized that the Nazis targeted LBTQ people in the Holocaust. That’s 100% homophobia. But apparently we aren’t allowed to call that out here.
Show threadfustigation769curtainMar 15, 2024

I agree, but the tribe has made up its mind.

You’re either with them, or against them. There is no in-between.

Show threadKilling_SparkMar 15, 2024
Yeah I hate it when “the tribe” calls out my factually wrong opinions.
Show threadfustigation769curtainMar 15, 2024

How can an opinion be “factually wrong?”

Lol.

Show threadKilling_SparkMar 15, 2024

They are not factually wrong becuase their opinion does not match the popular opinion. They are factually wrong because their opinion does not align with the fact that the holocaust was not only about exterminating jews.

How can an opinion be “factually wrong?”

If I formed the opinion that the third Reich did not want to exterminate disabled people as part of the holocaust that would be factually wrong. That’s how facts and opinions work.

Show threadfustigation769curtainMar 15, 2024
You don’t know what the word “opinion” means. I highly recommend brushing up on your vocabulary.
Show threadKilling_SparkMar 15, 2024

Let’s quote the oxford dictionary then:

opinion (noun) your feelings or thoughts about somebody/something, rather than a fact

In this context the opinion is the thought that the holocaust was only about exterminating jews. This thought does not align with the facts.

Show threadfustigation769curtainMar 15, 2024

Wow. You also need to brush up on your reading comprehension because you can’t even understand the words you’re reading!

Goodbye. I’m gonna block you now because you aren’t worth conversing with.

Show threadfinishsneezingMar 15, 2024
I’m second-hand embarrassed for you. I hope you‘ll be too one day - but I also hope that you‘ll eventually forget it.
Show threadfustigation769curtainMar 15, 2024
I don’t really care what losers on the internet think.
Show threadfinishsneezingMar 15, 2024
You made 70 comments today. Sure looks like it’s the major part of your life.
Show threadfustigation769curtainMar 15, 2024
🤡
Show threadmagnusrufusMar 15, 2024

People have the opinion that the climate isn’t changing. People have the opinion that the world is flat. People have the opinion everyone with dark skin is sub human.

Some people frame their terrible views as opinions so they can use the bad faith argument that it’s just a difference of opinions so everyone should just be ok with their hateful or ignorant stances. Some people frame their terrible views as opinions to try and avoid valid criticism of their opinions contradictions with reality.

You are fervently engaging in a behavior exhibited by the hateful and ignorant and there is a pretty safe bet as to why.