FatCatThe DMA already having an impact. Brave Browser installs surge after introduction of browser choice splash screen on iOS.
OrangeCorvusYeah but Brave? Why not Firefox or Vivaldi.
AatubeBecause it's listed as the first item on the browser choice screen for some reason, probably
TheMinionsI mean it’s probably just alphabetical, but I wouldn’t know for sure.
The second one is Edge, and Aloha Browser exists
The list is randomized, I’ve seen several screenshots with different order.
NorgurForgive them. They aren't used to choosing their browser yet.
Ok you get a free pass, make sure it doesn’t happen again :)
They’re Apple users. They aren’t used to making any decisions when it comes to how their phones work
I’d defend myself, but I work in digital marketing so I’m not going to dissuade anyone from using AdWords… I mean Android.
Funny, I see far more ads on iOS than I do Android
Where?
Don’t tell them about all the different ad blockers we can use!
We don’t have to, cuz they work 😉
They work the way Apple wants them to
They also work how I want them to, well instead of having to fight my own phone, it just works, go figure
Oh give me a break with this nonsense. Android has an 80% global market share. It also “just works” and very frequently works better than iOS.
Safari is a shit tier browser when it comes to web standards and performance. It’s so annoying how Apple fans need to dunk on everyone else to justify blowing $1000 on a phone
Uff, projecting a bit aren’t we? I didn’t start the flame war, the other guy started by shitting on iphone users.
And yes, android phones do the 80% of Iphones for less money, but you know what? Those last 20% I do care about.
Just something as simple as switching my wireless earbuds between my computer and phone seamlessly, compare the experience between android + windows/linux and the experience with Iphone + macbook with airpods.
Small shit like that " just working" makes a huge difference in UX and thats what I care about.
Not sure how Safari being garbage is relevant, so is chrome, I use firefox, so, whatever?
Sounds more like Stockholm Syndrome
Whatever you need to tell yourself, lol
Don’t lump us all in with them, Safari with Adblock extensions on mobile, Firefox everywhere else
strawberryas someone said, its randomised, and I'm sure that other browsers also saw more downloads
Vivaldi is my go to browser. Brave does a better job with blocking ads. I’m switching to Brave whenever I need to stream something on a site loaded with ads, or when YouTube manages to detect my Adblock for a few days.
I don’t like that you can’t use the Dark Reader extension on mobile in Vivaldi. I like all of my websites to be dark.
I guess it does have a built in dark mode
AppoxoNot like uBlock Origin is a thing?
Can it really get better than that and consent-o-matic?
Can it really get better than that and consent-o-matic?
"This Other Browser is just as good as Brave*!"
- if you install x, y, and z and uninstall a and b
You are comparing a tool to a tool belt in terms pf capabilities.
You think Firefox is the only browser that can use extensions and add-ons? Brave just doesn’t need them for adblock because it’s built in. But, like all chromium browsers, you can use loads of extensions for loads of use cases. Anything that works on Chrome works on Brave.
It’s maybe a few clicks to find the add-ons store in Firefox then searching “uBlock Origin”. Hell, when I switched to Firefox last year, I want to say there was even an onboarding that pointed me to the extension upon setup.
So, back to my original point.
I am using uBlock Origin on my Vivaldi. It doesn’t block everything.
It’s not supposed to block everything. Neither does brave.
Well the Brave Twitter account is likely a bit biased toward the Brave browser. 🙂
I’m sure the others were impacted too.
Still better than Edge or Chrome
firefox sucks for most people and vivaldi it’s too complicated to configure + it looks like pure bloat
Why does it suck though? Works fine for me. Granted, I’m a software engineer, but even looking through my “end user glasses”, I don’t see anything wrong with it.
I wouldn’t say Firefox sucks but there are definitely some things that made me use Edge occasionally back when I used Firefox as my main browser. It was mainly stuff like a webpage that doesn’t support Firefox and extensions not having a Firefox version. Which sure aren’t problems with FireFox, it’s more a problem of it not having enough adoption, but to an end user if the thing they wanna use doesn’t work in FireFox but works in Chrome then that’s FireFox’s fault.
I’ve used edge before my university disabled profile syncing (only reason I was using it, to be honest). Edge was fine. Switched to Firefox just to see how it is nowadays, never looked back. Honestly, can’t think of any extension I’m missing. Got quite a few myself, but probably not the same niche as you.
So far I haven’t encountered broken websites yet. Fingers crossed to keep it that way. Though I’ll probably steer clear of such a website unless absolutely necessary.
So far I haven’t encountered broken websites yet. Fingers crossed to keep it that way. Though I’ll probably steer clear of such a website unless absolutely necessary.
Granted, I’m a software engineer,
Lmao love how you inserted “software engineer” there like that supposed to mean something.
In this context, maybe it kinda does. We tend to be techies, so a bit more accustomed to shitty UI/UX than most users.
Ann ArchyIt has its levels of enshittification, but it’s still a very good browser.
I have very few issues with Firefox. I fine across a site that does not render properly maybe once every other month. I did have some resource issues with it in Windows 10 with it using too much RAM (regularly using 3-4GB) but that has been fixed since I switch to Linux.
every site i use is slow af in librewolf (basically firefox) and also uses a lot of resources more than chromium based browsers
RmDebArc_5Vivaldi is extremely slow on IOS and 2gb+ big. Firefox has no extensions so no Adblock. Generally there are few privacy friendly/Foss browsers on IOS.
You can get one but not the other. Orion has been pretty solid for me, has all the lovey iOS integration so the happy chemicals Apple spent R&D on does it’s magic while blocking all sorts of things, but it’s closed source :/
Im, Safari is so privacy friendly that Google regularly asks me if I’m human. For example it has a built in VPN that doesn’t allow Google to see your IP address.
And 99.9% of the Safari’s code is FOSS.
GitHub - WebKit/WebKit: Home of the WebKit project, the browser engine used by Safari, Mail, App Store and many other applications on macOS, iOS and Linux.
Home of the WebKit project, the browser engine used by Safari, Mail, App Store and many other applications on macOS, iOS and Linux. - WebKit/WebKit
I mean they did say few. Generally speaking, every browser is basically safari (WebKit) on iOS and apple doesn’t allow support for 3rd party browser extensions (least natively, Orion supports this somehow). So you’re already limited in that regard. If you don’t use safari , a browser like FF + VPN is IMO a better experience. You also have the option of just using wireguard and controlling your traffic at home/VPS if you’re into that.
WebKit might be open source but the browser deployed by apple is not. That’s like saying chrome is open source. They both use open source engines.
it’s definitely more pro-privacy than Brave or FireFox. I’ve never had to jump through a captcha to use Google in those browsers.
You have this backwards. Google showing you captchas is basically them saying they can’t match your browser to any know (shadow) profile they have already stored. So they aren’t sure you are a human and if so which one specifically. Getting harassed with a captcha is essentially like a badge of honour for your browsers privacy settings.
No they don’t, that’s exactly what they said. Safari makes them do CAPTCHAs so it is the most privacy friendly. It is true that it has better blocking features than Firefox on iOS (because Firefox doesn’t have extensions).
Firefox is deliberately gimped by Apple on iOS, along with every other browser. It’s not a fair comparison. Firefox doesn’t even necessarily need extensions to match Safari, but it does gecko and all the settings it supports on other platforms.
I don’t disagree that Firefox is deliberately gimped, and it’s built in blocking features on desktop match Safari on iOS. I’m not sure I really agree that Apple is a “shady company,” in many respects they are doing a good job with end to end encryption and ensuring that they don’t have access to your data in the first place (not to excuse their extreme walled garden approach, which stifles competition and limits good options like Firefox [real Firefox] with uBlock Origin [or uMatrix]).
Oh you are right, I misread that. Thanks for pointing it out.
No problem
Private relay is more like a VPN than tor
Man imagine being so far up apples butt that you actually think Safari is safer than tor. Embarrassing
Firefox has no extensions so no Adblock.
That’s because so far every browser on iOS had to use WebKit as it’s HTML rendering engine, meaning that even if you installed another browser manually you were basically still using Safari under the hood. IIRC the new DMA rules include allowing other browser engines like Gecko, so Mozilla is probably already working on making addons available. I mean they are available on Android, so why wouldn’t they make them available on iOS now that they finally can?
I’m wouldn’t be sure because of how stupid Apples compliance is. But if they do I would definitely switch. I guess it’s just going to be Firefox focus until then.
Bobby TurkalinoBecause it blocks ads out of the box. I know its new tab screen causes a lot of y’all’s buttholes to clench because it mentions cryptocurrency, but there are harder things to ignore
Careful, if you try to advocate or defend Brave on Lemmy, you’re stepping on a minefield.
Idk if I would advocate for or defend it, but I find mobile ads especially abhorrent cuz they take up more relative space on the screen and my upload speed isn’t good enough to be VPNing through my pihole anytime I’m outside the house
iOS browsers are just skins for Safari anyways, and I find Brave to be the most useful one
Vivaldi is a proprietary rebranding of Chromium. Can’t say I’d recommend it over Firefox.