callmepkDamn Linux Users
LiomeAs a linux user, can confirm.
EvolvedTurtleAs a Linux user
Fuck you
/j
As another linux user fuck you both
As yet another Linux user fuck all of you!
That is a lot of fucking
We have to compensate for the real thing somehow, don’t we?
The_Cunt_of_Monte_CristoAs another Linux user fuck you all.
Nope, bs
If you are gems in this limestone community I’d suggest you to get out of Linux instead :)
MelllvarYou Linux users sure are a contentious people.
DekkiaYou’ve just made an enemy for life!
Apparently it was already that way, before the comment - or do Linux users love the /dev/null?
After writing that, they probably do… I’m not sure where I stand any more
where else do you pipe output in scripts?
Well, I don’t know about your scripts but I’ve learned I need stdout and stderr cos it fucking never works until iteration #28
Carighan MaconarFor something that is supposedly such a cool solution, it sure causes a hell of a lot of problems nearly constantly.
They ruined Linux!
Pasta DentalLinux users and Wayland users
Linux users with X11 users
Linux users with GNOME users
Linux users with KDE Plasma users
Linux users with Systemd users
Linux users with openrc users
Linux users with snaps users
Linux users with flatpak users
Linux users with appimage users
Linux users with native packages users
Linux users and Ubuntu users
Torvalds doesn’t care about “current Linux”. But he is scared when “current linux” inject bad code into his kernel.
geogleLinux users with Emacs users
HM King Charles III DG FDLinux users with Hannah Montana users
I Cast FistLinux users and Arch users, btw
Linux users and Temple OS users!
different distribution fights. Different display manager/desktop environment/window manager users fight.
Why can’t they just left stupid users to use things like gnome and kde and other desktop environment, they can still use their wm for maximum productivity and performance.
This is a very stupid fight.
Look at the BSDs, OpenBSD users can laugh on FreeBSD for having to support wine, running ia32 binaries on amd64, broken at securelevel 1, . FreeBSD can laugh on OpenBSD
Congratulations, you just called someone stupid who actually understands what a zygohistomorphic prepromorphism is.
KDE is perfectly sufficient for my needs. Used it even back in the days where I used XMonad as wm because it takes care of the 100000 tiny things that aren’t worth optimising.
KDE is perfectly sufficient for my needs.
I’m actually praising that, since many Linux users care what desktop environment, what editor do others use.
Look at the BSDs, they care about technical issues.
Well I’m still going to tell you that gnome is bad software both from the user experience and their unwillingness to implement basic features, and that you should be using helix.
I also don’t like systemd but nixos happens to use it and I usually don’t have to deal with it so meh.
Look at the BSDs, they care about technical issues.
I do, too. But only when I’m working on it. Otherwise, as long as stuff just works, I’m perfectly happy to keep the bonnet closed. That was quite different in my early days, I actually daily-drove linux from scratch in the early 00s, but at some point you either decide to become an OS developer, or you lose interest.
Side note there’s actually a project brining the glory of nix to the BSDs.
MaestroI like gnome. My only gripe is that workspaces should be per-screen. But all Linux DEs aside from a few isoteric tiling WMs get that wrong.
Well I’m still going to tell you that gnome is bad software both from the user experience and their unwillingness to implement basic features, and that you should be using helix.
I should?
I use what I want. (understand that you are advertising software here.)
I do, too. But only when I’m working on it. Otherwise, as long as stuff just works, I’m perfectly happy to keep the bonnet closed. That was quite different in my early days, I actually daily-drove linux from scratch in the early 00s, but at some point you either decide to become an OS developer, or you lose interest.
(See what technical issue I’ve written. See the pdf slides above.)
Side note there’s actually a project brining the glory of nix to the BSDs.
advertising. Don’t care.
advertising. Don’t care.
It’s very much a technical issue. Skimming your pdf it even talks about package building and delivery. Nixos is so good at that that I gladly put up with systemd is what I’m saying, depending on what you care about more it might even make you tolerate linux.
advertising again.
Skimming your pdf it even talks about package building and delivery.
The talks shows the attitude of BSD communities to each others.
Which most linux communities doesn’t have yet.
Korne127Gets (in my opinion rightfully) mad that someone called their preferred software dumb and says that it works just good for them Literally does the same for different software in the next statement Why are some people like this… No, Gnome, KDE or some other stuff is not obviously bad, otherwise there wouldn’t be tons of people that really do know the different options be using and enjoying it. Just let people use it. You can list advantages and disavantages and why you personally prefer something else, but don’t call it outright bad or insult the users…
Just let people use it.
In fact many “linux user” won’t tolerate such software :)
OP called users of the software stupid, not the software. While some of what gnome is is defensible and I just don’t like it, like having very little in the way of configuration options, the other part, like being unwilling to implement server-side decorations, makes it plain bad software. There’s a reason you hear people reply “well just don’t use gnome” to claims of “wayland is broken”.
Software can, indeed, be objectively bad. “Oh tastes just differ” is an appeal to false civility: No, if your bridge doesn’t get people across the river I don’t care how pretty it looks it’s broken. It might be a beautiful art piece, but it definitely isn’t a bridge.
OP called users of the software stupid, not the software.
(in my opinion the software is stupid, and users of stupid software are stupid :) because desktop environment is inefficient compared to pure window manager, and keyboard-based wm)
Please,
Just use what you want.
I mean in a way I get it, psychologically.
When you embrace Linux, you - sadly - also have to embrace the fiddling. Still, even in 2024. It’s gotten worlds better, but it still exists. But as it is a choice to swap to Linux - usually from Windows - you do not perceive this fiddling as a shared plight you can bond and laugh over, instead you see it as the “cost” of embracing Linux.
As a result, whatever setup you end up with has to be mentally justified to your own brain. A bit like a post-purchase rationalization. So you mentally consider your specific end result to be vastly superior to all other possible ones, after all, this is why you did it! You put in the work to create this, it must be superior.
By calling them stupid you are actively participating in the fight yourself
There are very valid reasons both for and against WMs
Whole point of Linux is allowing user choice, why get on people’s cases about what they can and can’t use
By calling them stupid you are actively participating in the fight yourself
Sorry :)
There are very valid reasons both for and against WMs
Whole point of Linux is allowing user choice, why get on people’s cases about what they can and can’t use
In my mind I call them “stupid” because I personally thinks desktop environments are “stupid”. Sometimes this flew on the keyboard. Sorry for that.
A better word to describe those de/wm is “crap”. Just my personal thought.
Crap is still insulting them though, personally I think gnome is really good. I use hypr and love it but it’s also taken a gargantuan amount of effort to get it how I like it which not everyone wants, and before I switched gnome was doing perfectly fine
KDE and cinnamon I’m sure are similar boats, though I haven’t daily driven either of those yet
Crap is still insulting them though
No one wants their software to be called a “crap”, so I will not puke out again.
personally I think gnome is really good
But many people doesn’t take “personally”. I wanted to write a post about this a few days ago but the op posted the meme.
“Linux users” cared about what their desktop environment looks so much.
This is my .cwmrc:
bind-key 4-s “bin/scrshot”
(EOF)
What’s your window manager?
𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆BSD for the win
jackpotit good
but why better
it’s all based on use case…
cuz
frippaOS/2 on top
I like how this implies that Groundskeeper Willie uses Linux.
What you think he’s running Windows 11 with an Office 365 subscription in that tool shed of his?
I mean, he certainly doesn’t seem technically literate enough to make or use a super-customised setup.
Technically nVidia chose that fight, not Linux users. nVidia is chocked full of proprietary implementations meant to bog down competition, for example all CUDA technology including translation layers are technically illegal to even look at without nVidia proprietary drivers. All alternatives are free open source, afaik.
I agree, but that’s what a linux user would say…
I agree, but that’s what a linux user would say…
“linux user” should be put in double quotes :)
Well, I’m not a Linux user and I say that as well. Nvidia does not just not care about Linux, they actively try to act against their open source driver implementation and working with an Nvidia graphics card on Linux is much harder than using the alternatives.
Well, I’m not a Linux user and I say that as well. Nvidia does not just not care about Linux, they actively try to act against their open source driver implementation
Can you give more information on this?
Nobody cares whose fault it is. At the end of the day it’s a Linux issue.
ElPussyKangarooYes. NVIDIA is NEVER going to spend money on your community and it will NEVER be year of the Linux desktop with the planets best GPUs not working.
Nobodies problem but the Linux community.
AMD… And the most expensive gpu’s in general are nVidia
I know, when the reality gets in the way you, can summon your inner Steve Jobs and turn up that RDF.
AMD is the top GPU maker and users are going to ditch Nvidia in droves to adopt Linux desktop.
helenslunchusers are going to ditch Nvidia in droves to adopt Linux desktop.
If even a fucking smidgeon of all computer users stopped using Nvidia for Linux, they’d probably start supporting them.