zarkanianWhy so sad?
Jo MiranA: That good boy had many baconz
B: Pet pigs are awesome
TjaAnd delicious!
How do you know someone eats animals? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.
mojofrododojoaw you don’t eat animals?
that’s a lie.
You consumed 3 spiders last week while sleeping. God knows how many gnats and other bugs.
Stop acting all superior, the only thing you’ve got going for you is the certainty that you’ve eliminated mammals from your diet and are not subsisting on bugs.
muntedcrocodileFirst i love that u got downvoted for this lol friggin hilariouse.
Second you more right than u think most vegan diets rely on food with farming practices that rape the land so fucking hard. Its actually been calculated that a vegan diet kills more animals than a non vegan one but its insects getting killed by farmers with chemicals (usually nerve agents) but bugs arent cute and fluffy so nobody cares.
Pesticides or GMO are going to be used for agriculture either way (vegan/non vegan diets). regardless, your assertion that vegan diet kills more is specious conceptually and ridiculous in premise - just growing a chicken requires more energy than growing grains, legumes or fungus. If you have evidence post it, otherwise lol nah man.
downvotes were probably for the poor way I made a joke. I don’t take it personally, admit it wasn’t great humor. But you’ll never get me to think Vegans are harming teh ec0sytM!!
All the vegans I know garden or farm themselves, and I get to ride on their experience with my own tomato, cucumber, peppers, and green beans, and I live in the city. We just planted our onion and zuchinni starters but I’ve never done these before so we’ll see. It’s amazing what you can produce in two raised beds.
heres ya evidance: link.springer.com/article/…/A:1025638030686
The lowest estimate for land required per person per year i could find was 1,300 m^2/person/year thats a hell of a lot of land so I commend your efforts in growing your own food it a very rewarding proccess gives a better product and really does increase your satisfaction with it (something about dopamine for doing work and enjoying it or something blar blar science shit). But honestly your not really going to be making much of an impact with your efforts (thats no reason not to enjoy it as a hobby tho).
I aint vegan but growing ones own food whether that be livestock or plants a is rewarding experience.
Warning about tomatoes u want at least like 7 beds and rotate all ur crops each year as tomatoes get fungal problems that can persist in the soil for like 7 years, depending where u are the birds will learn where ya food is so u might need to net it at some point. Beans are piss easy its hard to fuck em up give em good support and ur set. Onions arent too hard just gotta be carefull with them while they still as starter stock endless effort watering seeds i just put a shitonne of seeds in a tray and water it everyday keep it inside in the sun till they start to croud then stick em out also u never have to buy onion stock just let one or ur onions go to seed and tomatoes just try some seeds form some on a paper towel. Also can i suggest corn its great fun (huge waste of space) and tastes infinitly better as the second its picked it starts converting sugars to starch.
Raise yourself some chickens give em a good life feed em well get verifyably good eggs hatch our own chickens then after u realise u cant give away that many roosters the greatest chicken you have ever had awaits chicken that is ethical cared for loved from start to neck twisting end. If ur not comfortable breaking its neck a chicken head sized funnel and a VERY sharp knife does the job the chaos afterwards is just nerves releasing chemicals as long as its quick its completely painless. And hell if u keep ur own chickens they gonna get old and sick and need a quick end opposed to forcing them to suffer on.
The Least Harm Principle May Require that Humans Consume a Diet Containing Large Herbivores, Not a Vegan Diet - Journal of Agricultural and Environmental Ethics
Based on his theory of animalrights, Regan concludes that humans are morallyobligated to consume a vegetarian or vegandiet. When it was pointed out to him that evena vegan diet results in the loss of manyanimals of the field, he said that while thatmay be true, we are still obligated to consumea vegetarian/vegan diet because in total itwould cause the least harm to animals (LeastHarm Principle, or LHP) as compared to currentagriculture. But is that conclusion valid? Isit possible that some other agriculturalproduction alternatives may result in leastharm to animals? An examination of thisquestion shows that the LHP may actually bebetter served using food production systemsthat include both plant-based agriculture and aforage-ruminant-based agriculture as comparedto a strict plant-based (vegan) system. Perhapswe are morally obligated to consume a dietcontaining both plants and ruminant(particularly cattle) animal products.
I find it funny that a single story locked behind a paywall on springer is TEH EVIDENCE yet such a huge finding isn’t researched and documented elsewhere.
and again, the concept violates the laws of thermodynamics. it’s an energy economy. I can get as much protein and nutrients from veg for a fraction of the energy input compared to livestock.
thanks for the other tips.
Its a peer reviewed article and if u want to read the paper our friends over at [email protected] can give u general advice on how to do such a thing.
I though we where talking about animal life here not thermodynamics grass doesnt get sprayed with nerve agents to feed the cows.