US lawmakers vote 50-0 to force sale of TikTok despite angry calls from users

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US lawmakers vote 50-0 to force sale of TikTok despite angry calls from users - SLRPNK

Tik Tok pushes so much toxic content towards children and teenagers it should be shut down in my opinion.
The can very easily apply to every single social media.
Yes but unlike Facebook and other platforms, Tik Tok is aimed at and consumed by minors specifically.
How?
Advertising.
Source? Examples?
How to Use TikTok Ads to Boost Your Mobile Game Sales

TikTok is one of the most effective way to advertise mobile games. Learn how to increase your game user acquisition by using TikTok ads.

App Radar
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Directely relevant to advertising on tiktok.
Didn’t look very hard
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Directely relevant to advertising on tiktok.
The fact that you can advertise to children on tiktok doesn’t mean that the platform specifically exists to cater to young children.
Unrelated - this is just a business tiktok page
Directely relevant to advertising on tiktok.
TikTok Agrees To Improve Protections For Children

Under pressure from the European Commission, ByteDance, owner of the video-sharing app TikTok, has agreed to do more to protect children from hidden advertising and inappropriate content.

Forbes
This is about advertising to children within the platform and how tiktok intends to protect unethical advertising to children
I’m sorry you are getting downvoted, because technically you are right. TikTok will never claim to aim at children or advertise as such because they know they can’t provide a safe environment and will open themselves up to lawsuits.
If you’re the type of person who needs a verbal admission of guilt before you can see wrong doing, I guess.

Tiktok’s stance is rather meaningless because they’d never admit wrongdoing. I’m not curious how does tiktok target children with their platform? How do they lure them to it and why?

Then the conversation becomes: What standards should social media platforms be accountable to?

Privacy Changes To Ads And Improved Data Control And Transparency Tools | TikTok For Business Blog

Learn how we build privacy into TikTok by design, and give our community a range of controls to manage their online presence to decide the TikTok experience that’s right for them.

TikTok For Business
Again, this supports tiktok protecting children
No – it’s ticktok eventually capitulating to pressure to do anything at all. Just admit you’re wrong. It’s ok
After EU child safety complaints, TikTok tweaks ad disclosures but profiling concerns remain | TechCrunch

A long-running EU engagement with TikTok -- initiated following a series of complaints over child safety and consumer protection complaints filed back in

TechCrunch

Again, this is not relevant to the original comment.

This is about how advertising was abused to target children.

It honestly sounds like you unjustifiably hate the platform and are throwing every nonsensical argument.

You’ve provided zero justification that tiktok as a company purposely targets children or designs their application specifically for children.

I tried googling, can’t find anything that supports these claims

cbsnews.com/…/facebook-instagram-tiktok-snapchat-…

Should I keep finding relevant links for you or do you feel sufficiently foolish enough?

Social media apps made $11 billion from children and teens in 2022

Snaphat, TikTok, Youtube and others generated billions in profits last year from advertising targeting young users, a Harvard study shows.

CBS News
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I tried googling, can’t find anything that supports these claims

The comment was

Yes but UNLIKE Facebook and other platforms, Tik Tok is aimed at and consumed by minors specifically.

That study shows the opposite. YouTube benefited from minors over 2.5 times more than TikTok. And it shows every other platform is benefiting similar amounts. In fact, Snapchat has half the number of monthly users as tiktok but has almost identical ad revenue from minors. All the major social media platforms suck and are trying to take advantage of us, especially kids

I’m not arguing it’s only tiktok. They all fucking suck. The question was how does TikTok benefit off children and the answer is advertising. That’s a fact.

But the original comment you replied to WAS saying it’s only, or at least primarily, Tiktok.

I only commented because, especially among the reddit and fediverse demographic, there’s a fervent dislike of TikTok specifically. I think some people have lost sight of the larger issue, that TikTok is a symptom and not the disease. But it’s an easy target because of its early reputation as a dance app for younger users, its alleged ties to the CCP, and its popularity.

Global: TikTok’s ‘For You’ feed risks pushing children and young people towards harmful mental health content

Some might find information in this Press Release triggering. TikTok’s content recommender system and its invasive data collection practicespose a danger to young users of the platform by amplifying depressive and suicidal content that risk worsening existing mental health challenges, two companion reports released today by Amnesty International show. The two reports –Driven into the […]

Amnesty International
Unrelated, and you provided links that tiktok has worked to prevent this behavior from advertised
The Ultimate Guide to Advertising on TikTok | Five Channels Marketing

Today, the social networking app TikTok boasts over 2 billion downloads worldwide. It has around 800 million active users in several countries. With this many users, not many brands have taken to advertising on TikTok yet. Five Channels can show you how.

Inbound Marketing Services and One Account Manager
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I tried googling, can’t find anything that supports these claims

gizmodo.com/tiktok-slammed-in-europe-over-hidden-…

Are you a GOP candidate? You seriously couldn’t find any of these links?? I didn’t even use Google.

TikTok Slammed in Europe Over 'Hidden Advertising' to Kids

The European consumer advocacy group BEUC filed a complaint against TikTok on Tuesday, including allegations the Chinese-based social media platform isn’t been transparent about why it needs to collect some data on users. The complaint also claims TikTok is deploying “hidden advertising” aimed at children, according…

Gizmodo

Unrelated to original comment

Please find two brain cells to rub together to understand the context of the original comment. You’ve gone on a complete nonsensical tangent akin to mental illness

You just ignore anything you don’t like. Go back to Beijing and tell Poobear you failed.

I have to say they provided a lot of links and were unable to show anything relevant so i was tempted just to assume they’re crazy but I try not to base anything on crazy people even negatives so I looked it up

Looking at TikTok creator ages, figures are skewed towards a younger demographic. Young adults (18-24 years) make up over half of the creators (52.83%). While under 18s make up a comparatively low 27.47%

I don’t know how accurate these are but the article said they’re sourced from tiktok

A lot of people want a big bad to blame for everything and tiktok is it for a lot of people, but yeah I don’t really think their claim is correct

Agreed. We’re both being downvote because we’re not part of the hive mind.

Most of the links provided are about how children were easy to advertise to and TikTok was not properly protecting them. That’s a completely different discussion than “tiktok is targeting children”.

I want to be a supporter of keeping children safe, but I don’t think banning tiktok will help anything other than create 5 new platforms that will make letting kids safe even harder

No seriously – did you even try or did you just want to bloviate online to randos for… no reason at all?
You just ignore anything you dont like. You’re not arguing in good faith.

By design. The format (short video clips) and the optimization for being used on phones (not computers) makes it attractive for kids.

[businessinsider.com/tiktok-children-users-data-pr…](TikTok reportedly has 18 million users who are 14 or younger, renewing concerns for children’s safety)

[www.nytimes.com/…/tiktok-underage-users-ftc.html](A Third of TikTok’s U.S. Users May Be 14 or Under, Raising Safety Questions)

[cnbc.com/…/tiktok-usage-topped-instagram-in-2021-…](63% of Americans between the ages of 12 and 17 used TikTok on a weekly basis)

[digitalmusicnews.com/…/tiktok-users-mostly-childr…](Report Estimates One-Third of TikTok Users Are Children Age 14 and Under)

TikTok has 18 million US users 14 or younger, raising privacy concerns

Children's privacy laws in the US prohibit apps like TikTok from collecting personal information of children under 13 without parental consent.

Insider

Kids using tiktok and tiktok specifically targeting children to use their platform are distinctly different. Just because kids use tiktok doesn’t mean it’s because they were lured there. Those metrics identify that tiktok is popular.

I appreciate your opinion, but short video clips on Mobile devices are nothing inherent to children. Now if tiktok was giving you pokemon for signing up or posting of their platform, then there’d be a valid argument

Getting back to the original context - the argument that Tiktok should be shut down because “it’s short videos on mobile platforms that’s popular among teens” is lunacy. Everyone is throwing shade at me and not realizing how absurd their argument is.

I’m not acting in bad faith either. I did care about the date of tiktok, but I’m seeing a trend of vilification without proper logical discourse. It’s disconcerting to say the least.

I respect your opinion. However, I think you are missing the central point. Which -in my opinion- is that a social media platform that turns out to have extremely negative effects on society and especially kids, should get shut down. If it happens with intent or without is not particularly relevant as far as I see it. I apologize if my initial comments were phrased in any misleading way, I am not a native speaker so i sometimes miss the finer nuance of a formulation.

No need to apologize, you’re the first person to actually calmly and willingly discuss the topic without completely dismissing being disagreed with.

I know you’re not the originally comment I was replying to, but you conveniently moved the goal posts. The context of the entire conversation is whether TikTok specifically should be shut down because it targets children for it’s own gain. You’re now arguing that social media in general has negative impact on society and children, which I agree with, but is completely skewing the conversation and was, in no way, the central point of the discussion.

So your opinion is that all social media platforms that deem to have negative affects on society should be shut down? Do you not see what’s wrong with that? You’re saying humans can’t decide whether or not they want to use social media. You should understand how absolutely absurd that is - that is a completely dystopian totalitarian dictatorship idea. It sounds like a chapter in 1984.

Unlike? I think you mean they’re JEALOUS of TikTok’s appeal to minors…
What I mean is that Facebook for example is aimed at and consumed by older adults in the first place. Young people in fact see it as a boomer platform.
When I was a kid and Facebook was new, I remember everyone wanting an account. The way I see it, Facebook just kept those users who wanted it when it was new. Who’s to say that the same won’t be true of TikTok later?

Who’s to say that the same won’t be true of TikTok

Who knows but we are talking about the negative effects TikTok has on society right now.

I think people forget that Meta owns Instagram which is known to have a very young user base.

They are even currently Suing the FTC because they want to monetize minors more

Facebook parent Meta sues the FTC claiming 'unconstitutional authority' in child privacy case

The parent company of Instagram and Facebook has sued the Federal Trade Commission in an attempt to stop the agency from reopening a 2020 privacy settlement with the company that would prohibit it from profiting from data it collects on users under 18. In a lawsuit filed late Wednesday in federal court in Washington, D.C., Meta Platforms says it is challenging what it calls the structurally unconstitutional authority deployed by the FTC in reopening the privacy agreement. The dispute stems from a 2020 consent agreement Meta made with the agency that also had the social media giant pay a record $5 billion fine over privacy violations.

AP News