Masculinity in Crisis - Lemmy.World

Some domestic violence centre near me got closed down because feminists kept protesting its existence.

Feminists got things to answer for.

Men aren’t always the issue. Men need male places, women don’t like that. Men can be victims, women don’t like that. What I seen in the world men are a lot more sympathetic to mens issue. Women just brush it off and say all mens issues are due to men and that really women are the victims.

Nah. Feminists didn’t create the mess that systemically harms men. What actually creates it is systemic patriarchy. If you’ve never heard of Earl Silverman, give his story a read. He did try to create many of the things you advocate for, and the things that caused their failure was not feminists. It’s a tragedy.

That being said, we absolutely still need non toxic spaces where men can heal and be great allies to themselves and others

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Silverman

Earl Silverman - Wikipedia

So all feminists have completely clean hands?

That’s the issue I’m raising.

As in the real world I’ve seen issues from women but not issues from men. But you go online and no women has ever done anything wrong and all men as bastards.

Not the case at all. I’m a big fan of bell hooks for example, but she’s not perfect. Still, she raises good points, like feminism is for everyone and that patriarchy can hurt men just as much as women.

Internet’s an echo chamber, so it’s good to get out and just talk to real people and ask them what’s important.

Feminism is too focused on women’s issues caused by men. If you want to talk true equality feminism is the wrong brand.

The truth is a lot of men have issues with women’s actions and that gets deflected as “patriarchy” and for something for men to solve. The sunndely women are not responsible for their actions.

Like say a women abuses a man. Feminist say “see this is the patriarchy in action. If men stopped with the patriarchy life would be better for everyone. Because then men could get help”. But when men actually try to get help they only going to get it from men. Women quite often say men don’t need it.

Pretty cool strawmen you’ve made, lol
Dude’s not gonna be happy when he finds out we’re calling his argument a strawperson now lol

The post is very extreme. You only need one example to disprove it. It just marginalised issues and makes out they aren’t real.

I my life, experiences from my friends and many many stories online this will happen. You want examples find them, I’m not reliviing experiences for people this treat it like a game.

Some guy either says he doesn’t like how some women, even self described feminist, act. As they show a moment of weakness and a women uses it against then.

(Believe it or not this is a big issue. I guess you won’t believe it or won’t care).

Then when that is raised as an issue, women always deflect and never say it isn’t the women’s fault they say it’s mens fault for creating a system where women abuse weak men. But those men don’t get abuse from other men, this is the weird thing. Men will get abuse from women and support from men. But men are the issue.

Now how would that go about being fixed? I raise an issue like that, or someone else and what someone does is think it’s funny to make a meme about how guys hate feminist. Feminist can never be wrong. But never ever do women take it as an issue that women need to fix.