Rafael CalsaveriniI started doing Irish lessons on Duolingo.
I think I'll never be able to pronounce "Go raibh maith agat" correctly.
Hey @linguacelta , you probably know about this.
My impression trying to learn Irish and correlating the written words with the sound they make is that it should have went lots of sound changes since the orthography crystalized.
Is this true? I wonder if Welsh is like this too, or if it's easier to learn.
Bethan Tovey-Walsh has moved@rcalsaverini
As I understand it, Irish orthography represents the phonology very closely and regularly. However, the conventions for Irish are quite different from the spelling used by most European languages. Once you have learned the rules, you should find it easy to pronounce words correctly just from seeing them written.
As I understand it, Irish orthography represents the phonology very closely and regularly. However, the conventions for Irish are quite different from the spelling used by most European languages. Once you have learned the rules, you should find it easy to pronounce words correctly just from seeing them written.
Welsh spelling is also very regular, and it also has some differences from many other European languages. But I understand that the Welsh spelling system is usually easier for people to learn than the Irish system is.
@rcalsaverini
I sometimes suggest to people that they learn to speak some basic words and phrases in Welsh before they look at the spelling. For some people, it might help if the brain isn’t trying to apply knowledge of other languages and their spelling systems when learning pronunciations for the first time.
I sometimes suggest to people that they learn to speak some basic words and phrases in Welsh before they look at the spelling. For some people, it might help if the brain isn’t trying to apply knowledge of other languages and their spelling systems when learning pronunciations for the first time.
@linguacelta Oh, that makes a lot of sense.
I remember having watched a video a while ago explaining the meaning of the name of that Welsh town with a long name.
When the person pronounced the name slowly I remember thinking that it wasn't actually hard to read. It just was long and had a few uncommon phonemes, but overall I could easily read it once I knew which phonemes each letter represented.
@linguacelta I'll try to focus on pronunciation from IPA transcriptions. Maybe that won't trip me as much.
Well... I speak Brazilian Portuguese. I shouldn't be bad mouthing other languages for being irregular when they're actually not when my language's orthography is awfully irregular😅😅😅.
(not as much as English though, English is hell)