Preventer79What do you believe was the best era of the Internet and why?
LinkOpensChest.wavFor me, it was the 90s, before the entire landscape got consumed by giant corporations. I know it wasn’t all roses back then, but it felt like you could find anything online, and it opened up a whole new world.
Remember when almost every new web site had a guestbook and would sometimes let you sign up for an email address using their domain? I had a [username]@britneyspears.com email address for a while.
Nate CoxI want my ICQ and my IRCs and my “you’ve got mail” and my horrible screeching that means I will be online soon back.
I’m not even kidding. Give me back my 90s internet.
Go play HYPNOSPACE OUTLAW right now, if you haven’t. Trust me.
I keep wanting to go back to usenet, but I hate that it’s not included by my ISP anymore
Frater Musfree access to text froups
WHOA! Thank you so much!
ばにちゃんThe infancy of YouTube and Twitch. Everyone made content for fun, pretty much no one was nude or in a hot tub, monetization didn’t censor everything.
It was nice 🙂👍
Gah, I miss those days. I had a personal video on YouTube from the early days. Something or another flagged it — probably the audio I used for the cheap “credits” I put in — and the video went away.
More recently, grandmas birthday video. It got taken down a year later, likely because I had short, edited clips of Peanuts included. 🙄
Oh, and you mean Justin.tv.
Best era of the Internet was before the DMCA. At the time it passed I knew it would kill a lot of my favorite things about the Internet and I sadly wasn’t wrong
Why’s DMCA?
Digital millennium copyright act. It effectively moved the burden of proof for copyright infringement from the copyright owner to the accused, short-circuiting the existing IP laws, among other things.
It is where much of the drama around copyright online stems from. It’s used as a way to quickly stifle anything someone posts that’s something you don’t like.
It made circumventing DRM itself illegal, even if you’re not breaking copyright by doing so (even if it’s for your own research or backups).
Early YouTube and twitch, early reddit, pre-instagram. That was a good time.
Call me Lenny/LeniThe few years when Google was fully usable.
When AltaVista was actually good was another highlight. Babel Fish was great for its time.
Google is so useless these days. It’s very common that my searches get actually zero results now. Like, what the fuck happened? Google used to identify its quality by how many hundreds of pages of (admittedly mostly useless) results it could return for each search. Now, when I do get results, it’s about a 3 to 4 ratio of useless ads to actual content.
I have the Google rewards app that occasionally asks me questions about where I’ve been / what I’ve bought for which it will pay me a few nickels each. The other day it asked me questions about my use of ChatGPT and the relative trust I had for the answers given by the language model to my trust of the results from a Google search. The last question was an essay question asking me why I thought ChatGPT was better for the specific application I was using it for. Google paid me a whole goddamn dollar for telling it, in many colorful words, that I understood the tool I needed for my question wasn’t an ad generator so obviously I didn’t use Google.
Search engines no longer exist. There are only content recommendation engines now.
4gramsFor me, right now. I’m having a blast figuring out how to self host all the enshittified services that I’m closing off access to.
Catch 22 really, I’m enjoying it because I’m learning so much, so fast but probably shouldn’t have to and it’s not feasible for most I realize.
The 2000s for sure - from early online games and MMORPGs to a lot of forums, when Slashdot and Reddit were good, the start of Wikipedia, etc.
There was more optimism around everyone communicating with eachother internationally, and fostering communities. Nowadays it feels everything is dominated by a few big monopolies, and there’s a lot more censorship.
Personally, for me, it was up until about 2008ish. YouTube and blogging existed but it was all still mostly amateurs having fun. There weren’t really paywalls and the iPhone was still so new that you didn’t assume someone else had a smartphone. My circle of friends mostly had blackberries so we could chat/email with friends and get information (like news headlines or sports scores or even directions) but going fully online was still a deliberate thing you did on a computer. Bosses, being older, still assumed you were unreachable after work hours.
Basically, it was the era right before the internet became a requirement to function in society but it still had lots of fun content.
The early 2000’s. When I clicked the chat button on ICQ that connected me with a stranger anywhere in the world, that blew my mind as a kid.
When I was younger, oddly.
CalcProgrammer1I really got into the Internet in the mid-00’s and I would say the early days of YouTube, Digg, and most things still being pre-social media with forums being widespread was my favorite era. However, my second favorite era is going on right now. I always wished open source services would be more popular and even back then there were issues with corporate controlled services screwing over their users (see the Digg Migration). I’m so glad to see the Fediverse finally taking off, with self hosting options and no centralized entity who can shut the whole thing down at the flick of a switch. Leaving Twitter and Reddit behind has been very refreshing.
2001 - 2012.
No one knew shit. Privacy barely mattered. Everything was out there. The big guys were only big, not fucking obnoxious.
The pirate bay.
I mean…
No contest.
When e-mail addresses required “!” separators.
I have a lot of nostalgia for the late 90s/early 00s when the internet was still exciting. Videos! Games! Flash! Chats! Piracy! Winamp!
NovaPrimeViruses…viruses everywhere. And god damn we loved every second of it
It was wild. An MP3 could be music, porn or it eats up your whole hard drive.
I remember spending 3 while days downloading LotR: Two Towers (a huge feat as I had to finesse the entire household to not pick up the phone for those three days), only to end up with an audio-only file and a shit ton of viruses. Glorious memories
Oh damn that virus that said ‘free cupholder’ and it opened your cd thing.
It really whips the llama’s ass.
agent_flounderBefore the web when it was all ad free and just nerds was pretty cool. The email list / Forum era was pretty good.
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u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)2006-2012 - Torrenting was king and you could easily get anything you wanted.
Now you need to set up a VPN and hope you can trust it then find good torrent sites that are more hidden.
Agreed, that was the era of decentralization, when people could still have their own niche websites, instead of everything being run by a small handful of corporations.
Torrenting was king and you could easily get anything you wanted.
As long as you knew what you were doing. If you didn’t, then you were using Limewire and every download was a gamble. Am I actually downloading Caramelldansen right now or is this the tentacle scene from Bible Black again.
I was never on Limewire, but the torrent sites I was on were great
I do miss the era when torrenting was just something people did. The amount corporations did to curtail it really messed up the internet in my opinion. Getting cease and desist letter or getting the protocol blocked on me because I was sharing public domain books and Linux distros was so how I knew they were just swinging at anyone near piracy without any regard.
I’d have to do some digging to come up with the year, but I can describe it. It was after WWW happened, and all sorts of web content and communities took off. Search engines, like Altavista, had no algorithms except trying to find the thing you were looking for. Everything was free because it was ad supported, but (and this is key) the ads were no worse than what you’d see in a magazine: no popups, no sites making it impossible to hit the back button, etc. Maybe the worst thing was something would blink.
Once the war between ads getting worse and ad blockers avoiding them happened, everything went to hell. People making content had to come up with different business models, search engines started pushing paid content, paywalls started popping up, and the user experience went down the toilet.
I loved that period where WWW was buzzing with naive excitement and USENET was still popular for having conversations, it was a good time.
Resol van LemmyIt was obviously when Homestar Runner was at his peak (the character himself, the webseries named after him, and the website it’s hosted in all at the same time). This guy literally changed the accents of some people.
nevernevermoresbemails, TGS and tragdor are forever etched in my brain.
kids, don't play with too many knives. Crash stunt man gonna save some lives.
I’m actually glad they’re still around, they released a new cartoon last month.
Dizzy Devil DuckyThat cartoon was one of the most mind-blowing things I’ve ever seen on Homestar Runner in a long time!
RivalarrivalWell, have a nap, then FIRE ZE MISSILES!
Livejournal in the late 90s-early 2000s. God I made such great lifelong friends there. Nowhere else has had that level of intimacy.
I never got to experience that, but I recently paid for an Insanejournal account and so far, it’s pretty cool. I wish we could go back to the days where sites like Livejournal were popular.
Really I made lifelong friends there and we know literally everything about one another.
Early YouTube and early Facebook were really good. I liked old Facebook, as well as the timeline update. I miss Joe it used to work. I don’t use it or any other equivalent social media because none of them work like that anymore. Lemmy is the only social media I use and that’s more of a discussion board rather than keeping up with IRL friends.
Early YouTube comment was great before it got inundated with ads and sponsorships. I miss the silly humour you don’t really see that much anymore. The last good era of YouTube was the height of youtube haikus, that sadly, like a lot of things, got replaced by tiktok content.
'99-2009, the best time for me…some aspects are better now (cheaper, faster, more stable) but search engines are absolute shit now and social media is a stain on society. The never ending need for increasing profits year on year kills everything in the end… It’s killed so many good aspects of the net.
PantherinaThe Fediverse, today.
But no not really. If you are on Tiktok or shit like that suddenly there are actually people living close to you. Connecting to people you can actually meet is important.
I was not expecting anyone to say the TikTok era is the best of the internet.
Each to their own I guess, you’re wrong though
What? Everyone is on Tiktok, which is not the case with the Fediverse. The platform and lots of content suck, but it can also be valuable (short videos from things happening without press censorship and delay). The fediverse is still tiny in comparison and doesnt cover these things, like looking for restaurant reviews next door
The best era was 1993. I’d spend maybe 1 hour a day and read every new thing there was to read on the web.
Things went quickly wrong after you couldn’t read every webpage update before new updates. The www was no longer human comprehensible.
I used to love doing web design. Was perfect career for me, a mix of creativity and coding. Websites then were art, creative, took risks. Then cms became standard, sites all looking the same. Sites are more user-friendly now, but I miss the wild, weird internet of its early days.
FriendBestoThe few years before social media and the iPhone.
Anywhere from the 90s to the mid to late 2000s because that’s when you saw the most personal websites being made and what I would consider the golden era of Newgrounds. Now, I wasn’t able to experience the personal websites of the 90s, but through various means I’ve seen some really cool personal websites from back then.
Wet NoodleCheck out neocities for the revival of personal sites! Here’s mine
