Perspectives keep rapidly changing

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Perspectives keep rapidly changing - Lemmy.World

Kinda wish gunny didn’t break him and turn him into the kingpin.
First he had to be hollowed out and worn like an “Eggar suit” by a giant bug.
Edgar Suit. The guy’s name was Edgar, the bug wore his skin like a suit. Edgar Suit.
I remember it differently.
You remember it correctly

And become a serial killer with a vivid dream world including possibly some sort of demon. Took me a long time to figure out it was all the same actor. Well, however long is between fmj to kingpin role.

Vincent D’Onofrio is brilliant.

Along with being one of New York’s finest detectives on the Major Case Squad. This is his story. DUN-DUN
Huh, never connected that he was the same actor…
Kingpin the bowling one?
Nope. Kingpin from the Marvel TV show Daredevil.
Yeah, Vincent D’Onofrio punched a boob in a parking lot
My God this man is a chameleon. My family freaked out when they realized he was in jurassic world. Dude should have been a spy.
He’s one of the most instantly recognizable faces in Hollywood…
Lol I could not recognize him on the street. Looks normal but man does he nail it.
Remember when everybody got gaslit into thinking Gunny was great at his job
I know nothing about his actual military career, but he was great at his job of acting in the role of Drill Sergeant.
If I recall correctly, he got the job by scaring the shit out of Kubrick.

Nah, more like abusing his contact with him. If my memory doesn’t failed, he was hired as an instructor for the actors but he thought he could do it better, so he started sending audition tapes to Kubrick. Kubrick eventually got tired and watched the tapes and he loved it, so the guy got hired.

Or maybe I’m just misremembering 🤷🏻‍♀️

Hired to coach actors to act like drill instructors because he was a drill instructor. Turns out it was more effective to just have the former drill instructor act like a drill instructor. Turns out the drill instructor did do it better than the actors, and ended up being one of the most accurate portrayals ever put to film.
Except it’s not accurate. He played it as the worst example of an ineffective, sadistic drill sergeant. He has said that over half of that stuff wouldn’t fly even back when he was in boot. To make it realistic that Pyle would snap he had to be a truly horrible drill sergeant, so that’s how he played the role.
Having been through boot camp I can tell you there is a big over lap between what officially wouldn’t fly and what unofficially does happen. He became a spokesperson for The Corps, even getting promoted after leaving service, of course he wouldn’t sully the reputation of the Marine Corps on record.
That’s a pretty good reason to hire someone who’s supposed to be scary.

He rattled off a nonstop stream of profanity and insults for like 10 min straight as a way of training / demo-ing to the actor. Kubrick thought he did a far better job and left him in the role. Much of his dialog was ad-libed.

The original DI ended up as the crazy guy shooting civilians from the helicopter. “You guys oughta do a story about me!”

Remember when everyone got gaslit into believing (name any movie plot)

Come on get over yourself.

He was an actual marine, so he seemed like a good fit for the role.
Yeah, so he knew how an ineffective drill sergeant would behave.
Everyone back then was living on cocaine and cigarettes. That dude was just a little thicc is all.
Born to late to die of consumption, born to early to be infused with microplastics, but born just in time to enjoy all the asbestos and cigarettes he could possibly want
This dude was overweight enough that it was a health problem. Calling him “just a little thicc” makes you part if the problem

Can you, like, chill? God damn.

It’s a fucking movie and they wrote the character that way. The actor, Vincent D’Onofrio was in much better shape than what he made us believe. That’s what acting is, after all.

Apparently his ass looked like 150lbs of chewed bubblegum
150 Punds Of Chewed Bubblegum - Full Metal Jacket

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I think my kids are old enough to appreciate the jokes in Full Metal Jacket now. I got them to watch LOTR and now we started with The Hobbit. Star Wars next, but that’s a tough one, since it seems old to them, but maybe I’ll start with Rogue One since it’s the best modern star wars movie.
Honestly it might be the best Star wars movie, period. At least from todays perspective. The original trilogy was groundbreaking for their own time but haven’t aged the best. As with many media, what was innovative 40 years ago is cliche and stale today.
My only problem is the plot sucked. Like visually it looks great, but it’s kind of just loosely connected scenes that more or less copy the same story from a new hope.
The OT hasn’t aged well? Wat
Absolutely yeah when you compare it to innovative things like Madame Web
I suppose “aged badly” means something different to me: that something was socially appropriate at the time but is not any more, like overt sexism. The only thing somewhat going there is slave girl leia, though that scene ends with her strangling her oppressor. I’d say that’s at best a bit sexualized, but that’s nothing bad in my opinion. Sex positivity please
Are you saying overt sexualization isn’t apart of modern Hollywood?
Sexualization and sexism are not the same thing. The former is fine (for any gender, if the role asks for it) and the latter isn’t any more, which is also great.
Urgh… My love of the OT is compelling me to downvote your opinion as objectively wrong … Must resist the dark side…

Solo is the only Star Wars movie they’ve released since the OT in my opinion.

The rest tried too hard, but Solo had the YEEHAW which made Star Wars great.

I know folks hate it, but it was fun in the way Star Wars (ANH) was for me as a kid.

Rogue One?

Was a great movie, I loved it.

It was set in the Star Wars universe which I love, but my statement is more about the “yee haw hold on to your assholes” that Star Wars was before there was a Empire strikes Back even.

What I loved about Star Wars is what Solo did for me

I always hear that. I couldn’t get more than 30 seconds into the movie

Episode 8 made me unable to watch the movies. But Episode 7 killed Star wars for me though - when it came down our entire department took a half day to go together

I’ll never forget walking out of that theatre, the people who only kinda liked it were happy, the guy who memorized wookepedia was disappointed, then I shared a look with my team lead, who has been a diehard fan since the originals, he’s a big old school nerd.

We just shared a look of despair and loss, something we loved died that day. We’d both extensively read the extended universe, and we’d talk about it frequently. I don’t think we ever brought up Star wars again after that day

They will like it 100x better when they watch it for the first time on their own in college with their friends
While cooking meth. Dare to dream.
Why would you want to expose them to The Hobbit
Unless it’s one of the good fan edits. I think M4 is the best one.
Because while the residents of Hobbiton are pretty shy, the whole area is Shire.

Sci fi is my favourite genre. Watched the second trilogy of star wars when the came out and thought they were enjoyable enough.

Was excited to watch the orginal trilogy because everyone went on about how much better it was than the new ones.

Could not get into it at all. It’s boring as hell and I’m not even sure what makes it a good movie from a modern standard. Prepare to be disappointed with their opinion of it.

That’s not to say I don’t like old movies. Alien and Terminator are great movies, 2001 is pretty good though long winded. And non Sci film like 12 angry men and butch cassidy are amazing.

Orginal star wars honestly is pretty bad.

Original Star Wars is “bad” for the same reason that anyone watching the Matrix for the first time is going to think it’s kind of dumb and cheesy as hell: Tastes have changed, and all of the tropes and groundbreaking stuff it did were copied and satirized to death. There are definitely movies that have held up better than others and stayed more in line with modern tastes, but I don’t think it’s fair to look back at an old movie with almost 50 years of progress and judge it entirely on that.

The Matrix is great and I believe it still stands up.

But either way what we are discussing is if star wars is enjoyable today. I’m not disputing if it was enjoyable in the 70s or if it was groundbreaking.

There are movies where the special effects blew people away and did things that were unbelievable. You look at them now and the special effects look terrible and then the rest of the movie doesn’t hold any power because it was leaning on how good the special effects were.

I believe star wars is in that category.

Terminator 1 the special effects are shit. But it’s still a good movie.

Already did the matrix. Going for all the great movies
Hope you didn’t make them watch the extended Hobits. I’m not gonna risk it with my kids - I’m starting with LOTR
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