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Uh… what?

I was just interested to see what the reaction would be in this forum.

I thought the politics here was progressive honestly. Now I don’t know what it is.

Clearly the joke appeals to the audience of The Daily Show, which is not insignificant in US demographics.

I am not from the US and I have no idea who these people are and what are they doing here. I am genuinely confused if this is real or a skit.

This was my exact reaction

Why on earth is OP going on about “progressive politics” when these “politics” only apply to the US?

It’s a skit, but there’s an element of sincerity to it.

I had thought The Daily Show was quite big outside of the US. But yeah if you don’t follow US politics there’s nothing to see here.

I thought the politics here was progressive

There’s a BIG difference between progressives and liberal billionaires, though.

Besides, the two times the US elected entertainers as president, it ended in unmitigated disaster.

Have you ever elected a progressive entertainer, and one with a pretty solid political track record to boot?

Honestly, I would put money on her running. Probably not this term, but quite possibly the next

Taylor Swift Could Be President Within My Lifetime [Op-Ed]

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First of all, there’s no such thing as a progressive billionaire. It’s literally impossible to live up to progressive ideals while hoarding that much needless wealth for yourself.

Second, most of that “solid political track record” is just raking in money and clever pr creating a cult of personality. As Reagan and Trump have demonstrated, those are not qualities that help regular people.

I’ll concede that she’s been good on civil rights, especially LGBTQ+ rights and abortion rights.

She has, however, no political experience and has to my knowledge never said anything against the pernicious influence of money on politics or economics at all, which IMO disqualifies her, especially when, being a billionaire, she’s a symptom of failed fiscal policy herself.

I hear your righteous ideals and agree with them, but we will never get to a Solar Punk society or some other vision of a future worth wanting without convincing the powerful of the world to want it too. It’s never happening in a single generation, and it will be the work of our children our children’s children to establish the culture and the practical momentum toward that future.

Only something like 1-3% of people are psychopaths. I would argue high society, the ultra wealthy, are absolutely overrepresented, maybe 10-fold at least under capitalism when wealth buys protection and discretion, and you can get away with living a more hedonistic existence without consequences. But even so, that’s still only 10-30% of billionaires say, that are true psychopaths do who care only for their own ambitions and designs.

The rest are just not aware that there is are better ways, convinced their ideas are the right ones, and that they can do what nobody has been able to do before them. And they have the wealth and resources to try.

You can absolutely be a progressive billionaire, and I’d argue right now, many, if not most of the world’s wealthiest are doing what they think is right for the world. It’s just hard to change anything like this in meaningful and enduring ways. So many moving parts, so many minds to change. Nobody has figured it out yet. But what progressives do by definition is they try. I would are Taylor Swift is among these people. Like Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and many others.

Conservatives believe in the old ways, and that certain cruel status quos are necessary or natural. That being poor for example is your fate, your destined role. And likewise if you’re wealthy somehow your “earned it”. This belief is often enough for otherwise good people to keep their eyes closed and then turn a blind eye to suffering that is occurring because of them. But must still still care deep down. It’s just better for them and theirs not to do anything about it.

Meanwhile, keeping a decent job, working hard, and living a middle class life in a liberal democracy is its own kind of “conservativism”. That’s what most of us are doing. You could just as easily argue almost nobody is actually “progressive” when the rubber meets the road, and who could blame them when it’s true a “normal” life under modern capitalism is how we get to live to be a hundred. It’s not obvious or even really confirmed the better options are in fact better.

This is all to say, it’s about strategy. Taylor Swift would kick Trump’s ass in a popularity contest. She’s more experienced than most celebrities in the political sphere and most of politics is fundraising and posturing anyway. What’s important is how much she defers to save empowers the experts. She seems like someone who will.

Bruh you’re in a shitpost community
Shit posters are often some of the most insightful on issues like this. Comedians are not above picking sides when it comes to the culture wars. I would have thought the idea of Taylor Swift as president would be better received here than this. Not least of all because of how much it would piss off Trump.