RedditEnjoyerElon Musk finally says something we can all agree on: No one wants to have to log in with a Microsoft Account on Windows 11
Not really a contraversial opinion.
I’m going to log in with a burner Microsoft account on unactivated Windows 11 to spite both assholes.
You don’t even need a Microsoft account. You can get around it with by using Rufus to create the Windows 11 installer.
You can get around it by disconnecting the Internet during setup
Used to work, not now.
SHIFT+F10
cd OOBE
bypassnro
Reboot.
I had to figure out the command to bring up the command console to not log in with a Microsoft account. It was super dumb. I had to turn something off in the system as a workaround, which meant a bunch of googling.
There is zero reason for me to have a Microsoft account associated with my computer just to use it.
Wow so bold!
SanctusJust like no one wants to sign into Twitter to read one tweet.
Octopus1348I mean, I don’t like that either but it doesn’t affect links to tweets.
NixIt very often does
Single tweets are rarely useful without being able to read some context that isn't visible without logging in.
tsonfeirSend me a link
twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1762585367176511694?…
It doesn’t show replies though.
The link works for me.
It does however affect getting updates from government agencies, and others who insist on only disseminating real-time information to the public via Twitter.
For instance: https://twitter.com/WakaKotahiWgtn
This is the account for traffic events (road closures, traffic accidents, etc) in my city. Not signed in, the latest visible post is from February 2023.
Since I don't have a twitter account, this is now functionally useless.
Go to the city’s website, they should still have that information accessable via government sites. Buried, but it should still exist.
While true, the point is that Twitter does require sign in to view content, regardless of that information is elsewhere.
Have you tried contacting your government for this issue? From my experience public services are often open about Mastodon once they realize it’s the same thing as Twitter, but accessible to everyone.
I have not. I personally don’t live in a region where disaster notices are often necessary and I don’t have offspring that I have to care for that may be affected, so I’m not really the demographic for the service. I do hope more and more start branching out to the likes of Mastodon or maybe better yet, hosting their own instances.
the latest visible post is from February 2023
If you scroll down far enough, there are posts from March and August, but they were “less popular” tweets. Incredibly annoying move by twitter. Who wants to regularly view tweets sorted by “Top All Time”?
Buy Microsoft you fucking coward
I’d be happy. But too late to make Windows 10’s name Windows X, so it probably won’t happen.
He can rename it Windows X11 and piss off everyone
The entire global economy is held together by Excel. No thank you
We still have COBOL and AS400. We’ll be fine!
RmDebArc_5You mean Xcel?
ZeroCool
A great point? It’s not even true.
Hmm yes
Technology
Enough fucking Musk spam, we already know this. We didn’t need some rich jackass to validate this.
I for one get all my opinions from Elon Musk. Saves time and energy trying to come up with my own!
Oh shit now Elon is going to try to buy all of Linux.
Who uses Windows 11 anyway? I’ve personally been running Linux since 2017, and rarely have to touch Windows these days.
TimeSquirrelWho uses Windows 11 anyway?
99% of the world.
I don’t think Windows even has a 99% market share because of Mac and Linux. And even if it did, you’ve still got a lot of users on Windows 10 and possibly Windows 8. So that seems rather high.
ばにちゃんNo one wants to log in to look at twitter posts either
No one wants to log in to look at twitter posts either
empireOfLove2The more funny part of this statement is he’s too fucking dumb to Google “set up windows 11 without Microsoft account” and follow exactly 3 steps to bypass the OOBE wizard.
To be fair, the option is pretty easy to miss for someone who isn't technical. Font size -11000 and grwy or whatever, though I might exaggerate.
They break whatever process people use whenever they feel like it.
Whether the loopholes are incompetence or just for the sake of them being able to claim “you don’t need an account”, they definitely aren’t stable and consistent options. And it’s pretty clear that at some point they’re going to cross the line and just make you have an account.
ChaoticNeutralCzechWhat? Ctrl+F10 for Command Prompt and then
oobe\bypassnro has always worked, and I don’t see Microsoft removing it anytime soon. Who do you think put the bypassnro.bat script in the OOBE directory on every Windows installation media?
stackPeekPeak journalism
PsaldornWait until he uses Geforce Experience… oh boy. Every time it makes me log in AND THEN VERIFY MY EMAIL.
BombOmOmLuckily AMD cards (and their control software) don’t have this requirement.
SaltySalamanderI legit haven't used GFE since they began requiring a login to use it.
Cloudless ☼This title makes me decide never to upvote any post linking to pcgamer site. And never site the site of course.
But then how is Microsoft going to subscription service us to death?
He only cares because it’s annoying to him. He doesn’t give a rats ass otherwise.
jtkHe’s probably setting up to suggest Microsoft be required to support SSO so people can log in with twitter.
How about we go a step further and say that I don’t want to have to sign into ANY online account to access my computer.
If I disconnect my Ethernet cable, I can still log in and get work done. That should be the absolute MINIMUM that is expected of any operating system.
Linux is sometimes a royal pain in the ass, but it’s for precisely that reason that it’s important that it and Foss options like it are supported.
You don’t have to. It isn’t required. I setup end points everyday with local users.
For the general consumer Microsoft is making it as hidden as possible to make a local user during installation.
When I had to reinstall windows a month or two ago the option to make a local machine user was not there until I unplugged the ethernet or brought up a terminal to force the installer to show the option.
To be fair, for the average consumer there are huge advantages to using a MSA.
Both Windows Hello and OneDrive bring both security and convenience to non-technical people in a big way.
There is no good reason the average non-techie user should be using a local Windows account in a cloud world.
Even if it is so, giving a clear and easy option to opt for local account instead, would be the right way.
There’s plenty of reason, especially looking at what’s been happening in the last year.
I PAID for that computer (presumably with a hard drive) so why should I have to agree to my data being stored in someone elses server to be used to train the AI that will eventually land microsoft support services workers on the unemployment line?
Step one: I buy a computer.
Step two: Computer manufacture pays MS a licensing fee.
Step three: MS takes all of our data and trains their AI, which they can then monetize for use by other companies, making even more money.
Step four: Microsoft’s AI replaces basic Frontline workers (tech support, help lines, bug tickets, etc…) saving even MORE money.
Why in the actual hell would I contribute to that?
So you classify yourself as an average consumer or a non-techie when it comes to computers?
I generally consider myself half-way between the two, leaning more towards techie than normal consumer. I use Linux, I know how a computer works and what all the hardware does. But I don’t program (except for easy stuff like lua), I don’t build Linux from scratch or compile source code, etc… etc… etc…
I just want a computer that works, and a computer that, if I unplug my internet, I can still log on and use my word processor, or drawing application, etc…
Business class is a different license. Likely enterprise or volume.
It requires some registry or command line crap to deal with it on consumer grade Windows.