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"A frequent request from the #FreeBSD community and fan base is a curated list of laptops validated to run FreeBSD out of the box. To this end, we've recently begun discussions with one of our favorite laptop companies, Framework
Stay tuned!" (Edited out Puter from the bird site)

@frameworkcomputer @FreeBSDFoundation

funny how non-profit organizations like freebsd's endorse venture capitalists like framework's. the "modularity" in the framework is a good step in hardware design, but what good does it do if it's just proprietary and closed hardware? how is it useful when it's centralized like any other manufacturer? oh, and i forgot the proprietary UEFI firmware on the non-chromebook models and non-removable batteries. the MNT Reform is a lot more promising.

@yunori What batteries aren't removable? According to iFixit (and the Framework store, which sells replacements), they are, and there are even instructions on how to do it. Unless I'm missing something?

@patrizia technically the battery is "removable", in the same way the battery in every new iPhone or Samsung is removable.

batteries in older laptops just slid in and off you went. this one requires you to remove the top chassis and a couple of screws. look at older laptops' and fairphone's design for true "removable" batteries.

if you thought that they solder the battery to the mobo. i don't think any company does that, i have never even seen a soldered CMOS battery.

@yunori @patrizia I would argue that the framework battery is removable as is needed. It’s:

1. Easily removable
2. Fully supported (ie removing and replacing the battery is fully supported)
3. Has an OEM replacement affordably available.

Building a hard shell around the battery so it can slide in like it's 2002 isn't really needed with modern battery tech. Being a party pooper when a company works with open source communities isn’t helping anyone.

@mholiv
wdym a battery that can slide in isn't really needed? the properties you just mentioned, excluding the first one, make the battery *replaceable* not removable. removable batteries can be replaced on the go, you don't have to carry a screwdriver to replace your battery with a fully charged one. this was extremely useful with an ultraportable laptop. framework's laptops DO NOT have easily removable laptops. the average person is not ready to unscrew a couple of screws to replace a battery
@mholiv
please, if you wanna constructively criticize something/someone, avoid reactionary bullshit like "party poopers". i don't even need to explain myself, but i am not criticizing the design for no reason. these are design flaws that the community actually despises. the reason why dell latitudes and old thinkpads are valued is due to their modularity and removable batteries. the reason why fairphones are loved is because of their batteries.
@mholiv
it's not like i am demanding the technologically impossbile. if they can make GPU module removable, they can make the battery removable.