LinkerbaanFeb 4, 2024

Israel bombs Belgian office in Gaza after Brussels refuses to cut UNRWA aid

https://lemmy.world/post/11560029

Israel bombs Belgian office in Gaza after Brussels refuses to cut UNRWA aid - Lemmy.World

Belgium has summoned the Israeli ambassador to condemn the bombing of the country’s development agency in Gaza, the Belgian foreign ministry has said. The Israeli assault has taken place after the Belgian Government announced not to suspend funding for the UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA) on Wednesday. Belgium has decided to wait for the results of UN investigations into the possible links between some UNRWA staff and Hamas, according to Belga News Agency. “Belgium will put the issue of compensation for the damaged infrastructure of projects financed by the EU and its Member States back on the agenda of a subsequent European consultation,” it also warned.

Show threadAreteFeb 4, 2024

Here’s an actual source that isn’t a Turkish propaganda network: Reuters

Note how a real news agency states facts instead of injecting an elaborate “revenge for funding the UNRWA” narrative, mentions that the date and reason for the bombing is unknown, and notes zero expected casualties.

Show threadMachinist3359
Thanks for the better article. Still wild how little restraint Israel is showing, even if this wasn't retribution. Though don't think they are above such things.
Feb 4, 2024 at 4:41pmWeb
Show threadFenrirIIIFeb 4, 2024
No need for restraint when there’s literally no repercussions.
Show threadMxM111Feb 4, 2024
The problem with this particular war is that Hamas purposefully and in mass uses civilian shield. They do not care that civilians will die, in fact it is absolutely obvious and predicted and calculated outcome of their incursion into Israel. The only way for Israel not to kill civilians was not to react at all, which I think was not an option for them. Any attempt to avoid killing Hamas because of the potentially greater civilian casualties leads only to Hamas using civilians even more and in greater number.
Show threadbighatchesterFeb 4, 2024
The human shield argument is bullshit when Israel is killing 80-90% civilians. Bombing hospitals , schools and civilian building under the claim that Hamas is there is just stupid . And what about people waving a white flag all by themselves? Do they think Hamas is hiding behind them . This is just a genocide.
Show threadTWeaKFeb 4, 2024

And what about people waving a white flag all by themselves?

What about Israeli hostages topless waving a white flag, only to be shot indiscriminately by IDF?

Show threaddumpsterlidFeb 4, 2024
Like seriously, the Israeli hostages got naked and wrote things on their body because they knew how murderous the IDF was and wanted to take every precaution not to get executed on sight and they still got executed on sight.
Show threadTWeaKFeb 4, 2024
In Counter-Strike, you can still win the match even if you kill all the hostages.
Show threaddumpsterlidFeb 4, 2024
Hey as a US mainstream news anchor that sounds like good enough justification for me, I might use that! My boss said it really didn’t matter what I said on air so long as Israel are the good guys and I am finding it really hard and annoying to manage to find things that makes Israel look like the good guys while committing genocide in Gaza, sigh.
Show threadMxM111Feb 4, 2024

What prevents Hamas hiding behind people waving white flag? And what do you think should happen when Hamas shooting rockets (to civilian centers, by the way, specifically targeting cities without ANY military value) when they do it on purpose from civilian objects? Hamas using civilian objects like hospital, schools etc. is well established fact.

As for percentage, take for example Iraq War. Per Wikipedia about 20K insurgence were killed, the civilian casualties, however are in hundreds of thousands. And those insurgence did not specifically use human shield. So, was it genocide too?

I see no reason for people applying double standards to Israel other than banal antisemitism. And, I personally put the blame for civilian deaths in this war squarely on Hamas. They started this war, planned this situation, specifically knowing that what will likely happen next and were prepared for this and continue using the civilian shields.

When you mix religion with nationalism and antisemitism you get dangerous mixture of people ready to go to haven by killing infidels and ready to scarifies civilians for the same reasons. There is no way for Israel and Palestinian people to live in piece with organization like Hamas present, whose declared goal IS genocide of Israel.

Show threadNoIWontPickaNameFeb 4, 2024

You really like to d fens Israel killing babies my friend.

It was wrong when we did it to Iraq and it is wrong now.

It isn’t antisemitism to criticize Israel btw

Show threadbighatchesterFeb 4, 2024
For the record I was against the Iraq war. And what Hamas did in Oct was horrible , but Israel has killed 20x what Hamas did . Israel’s response should beore targeted , not destroying all of Gaza and stopping supplies from getting into Gaza that could help the innocent people who are currently starving in Gaza .
Show threadIndustryStandardFeb 4, 2024
Can you link evidence of Hamas using human shields? I can only find the IDF doing that.
Show threadDdCno1Feb 4, 2024

Here's an in-depth academic analysis of this:

https://stratcomcoe.org/publications/hybrid-threats-hamas-use-of-human-shields-in-gaza/87

Not that you care, given the ridiculous lie you just spread.

StratCom | NATO Strategic Communications Centre of Excellence Riga, Latvia

Show threadbighatchesterFeb 4, 2024
I haven’t actually had a chance to look over it yet but the article is from 2019 so it has nothing to do what is currently happening
Show threadDdCno1Feb 4, 2024
It has everything to do with what is currently happening, because Hamas' strategy hasn't changed since.
Show threadNoIWontPickaNameFeb 4, 2024

They did pretty good at sending in a strike team to the hospital to kill those 3 guys.

Almost like they did it just to show that they could and chose not to before.

Show threaddumpsterlidFeb 4, 2024

It isn’t a war, you can’t consider this a war when one side utterly controls all of the infrastructure including water, electricity, internet and the ability of aid to reach the other side while ALSO having one of the most advanced militaries in the world and the other side has… tunnels and shitty rockets?

This is genocide, not war, it is frankly absurd to frame this like a war instead of a mass scale societal punishment for a terrorist attack by a small subset of that population and also an attempt to wipe Palestinians off the map so settlers can take their land.

Show threadEldritchFeb 4, 2024
Maybe netanyahu should have thought about that before he pushed them to take over from fatah. I mean he knew even back then what he was getting. This is what netanyahu wants. So while it would be awesome if Hamas and especially Israel stopped killing civilians. The onus is on Israel and netanyahu.
Show threadAreteFeb 4, 2024
This was apparently an apartment building a Belgian group was using until they evacuated. Hamas could have started using it since the war started, or Israel thought they were, or it even could have been an accident. All way more plausible than singling out a Belgium aid group for a revenge bombing.
Show threadfluxionFeb 4, 2024
We’re supposed to believe they are carefully targeting terrorist concentrations while Belgium’s own buildings get blown up.