Pauline von Hellermann

Anyone outside or inside Germany interested in how Germany arrived at its wildly narcissistic anti-antisemitism: listen to this fantastically informative and lucid podcast interview with Emily Dische-Becker.

It's over 2 hours long but so, so worth it. Discussing anti antisemitism from the Anti-Deutsche left to the AfD and all. So much fascinating detail - Hessen's antisemitism commissioner wearing an IDF shirt etc.

https://thedigradio.com/podcast/the-german-question-w-emily-dische-becker/

The German Question w/ Emily Dische-Becker

Featuring Emily Dische-Becker on how Germany became attached to a wildly narcissistic anti-antisemitism and Israeli proxy nationalism that have made it one of the most anti-Palestinian governments on earth.

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Feb 3, 2024 at 8:52amWeb
Show threadPauline von HellermannFeb 20, 2024
Some of you interpreted this Dische-Becker interview ⬆️ as suggesting Germany needed less anti anti semitism. Not at all. Just that what Germany is doing is very much the wrong kind of anti-antisemitism. Which is detrimentally affecting many Jewish people! Here is how the Israeli film maker Udi Aloni put it at the #Berlinale yesterday
Show threadPauline von HellermannFeb 20, 2024

Adding this to above.

Germany’s Jews represent 1% of its population, but 37% of those arrested for antisemitic offences since Oct 7th

Show threadAriadneFeb 20, 2024
@pvonhellermannn that is a shocking statistic, but I would like to know the source of this data before I boost this. Do you know the original source, in German or English?
Show threadPauline von HellermannFeb 20, 2024
@ariadne no, i knew someone would ask… no, i don’t. Will try to check when i have time!
Show threadPauline von HellermannFeb 21, 2024

@ariadne just to come back to this: the person tweeting this themselves only saw it on Twitter and can’t offer a source other than the Dische-Becker interview I already posted above. So:

Agree, shouldn’t share stuff without a proper source. It sounds plausible because many Israelis live in Berlin precisely because they are critical of Israel, and would also be v motivated to join protests. And i have heard of several jewish arrests. But yes, shouldn’t post numbers without actual evidence.

Show threadPauline von HellermannFeb 21, 2024

@ariadne

Incidentally: the dig podcast seems to be down.

Show threadMeerderWörterFeb 3, 2024
@pvonhellermannn Thanks for sharing, I am completely on it
Show threadPauline von HellermannFeb 3, 2024
@MeerderWoerter oh great - do let me know what you think, i would love to discuss it!
Show threadAlonFeb 3, 2024
@pvonhellermannn AfD is not at all anti-anti-Semitic? They openly campaign on "please vote for us so that the Jews will leave"; the handful of people at the AfD Jewish group turn out to all be lying about being Jewish. The "we love the Jews and want to kick out Muslim immigrants because they're anti-Semitic" line is common to extreme right parties in other parts of Europe but AfD has never made any effort in that direction.
Show threadPauline von HellermannFeb 3, 2024
@Alon As Emily discusses, as far as I understood, they have both antisemitic and anti-antisemitic (basically pro Israel elements). For instance, they were the ones who launched the banning, in practice, of BDS in Germany. All this complexity discussed very well by Emily
Show threadAlonFeb 3, 2024
@pvonhellermannn They are not pro-Israel at all - in fact they called for a unilateral ceasefire, because that's Putin's foreign policy position and they're in alignment with it. (Die Linke doesn't, making them a pro-Russia-and-Israel party, which is a weird way to dediabolize yourself on the left.) And even if they were, they still wouldn't be anti-anti-Semitic; gentiles and the like three Jews who think most Jews aren't really Jewish (like Deborah Feldman) need to stop equivocating.