Mastodawn

Then your next job calls this job to verify your employment, finds out you quit without notice, and withdraws the offer

ironhydroxide Jan 31, 2024

You really think they offered a position without already doing that, if they were going to verify employment at all?

Is this going to be their last job? Lots of employers verify the last 3 employers or last 5 years

Paddzr Jan 31, 2024

I’m a manager. No, I don’t care. Agencies will because they want to see you a service. But even they don’t go as far as more than 1. 2 references are rare.

I’ve dealt with plenty of applications and agencies. I don’t think it’s an insignificant sample size and experience.

I’m not talking about references though. I’m also a manager, I’ve done tons of references, and most are glowing. I’m talking about employment verification, which HR often handles totally separate from the hiring manager. Obviously this is going to vary based on organization and policy, and the entire concept seems deeply unpopular here lol

Employment verification isn’t allowed to answer personal questions which would include the text above. HR contacts HR with the question, “Was this person employed on X through X dates.” The reply is yes or no. The manager doesn’t get involved.

Employment verification can absolutely include a description of the separation, eg “resignation with notice,” “resignation without notice,” or “terminated for cause.” Lots of people saying this can’t be said, but no one has cited any source because it’s false

no one has cited any source

What is your source?

Quora has verified CEO’s and Professors saying only dates and position are given out by HR.

Here’s the first hit I got on Bing™. My real source is a decade of experience hiring people.

Can an Employer Disclose That You Were Fired?

When a previous employer can disclose that you were fired, and what information they can share about your work history with prospective employers.

The Balance

From your link:

“Many organizations have policies that limit their staff to providing only dates of employment and job titles when inquiries are made about past employees. Others may be more willing to share information with prospective employers.”

So your statement only applies to your situation as your link confirms.

I hired people too. In only one situation where any ex employee was caught stealing from a client did I ever share anything negative. And that was only because the company who called was also a former customer.

I like how you end your post with an example of you doing the thing you’re saying companies don’t do lol

Of course this varies by organization and policy, but it’s a real thing that many companies do

I wasn’t HR. It wasn’t HR calling HR to verify employment. It was a former customer calling for a reference. So yes it can happen that if that OP used the company as a reference, the former manager could take the call and say, “He quit without 2 weeks notice.” It isn’t standard as your own link confirmed.

"Terminated with cause”

This wasn’t terminated with cause, fired or anything like that. The post is about an employee who quit. They are allowed to quit.

protist Feb 1, 2024

I don’t know what you’re arguing against here, my entire point is that there are some companies that communicate separation status by policy, whether that’s “terminated for cause,” “resigned without notice,” or “resigned with notice,” and that “resigned without notice” can negatively impact job opportunities at some companies.

Blue_Morpho Feb 1, 2024

So if someone calls your HR department asking for employment dates, you will volunteer information that wasn’t asked?

And how is the new employer going to know where you worked if you don’t share it.