MicroWaveJan 28, 2024

Ukraine says it has uncovered major arms corruption

https://lemmy.world/post/11278826

Ukraine says it has uncovered major arms corruption - Lemmy.World

Ukraine’s security service says it has uncovered corruption in an arms purchase by the military worth about $40m (£31m). The SBU said five senior people in the defence ministry and at an arms supplier were being investigated. It said the defence officials signed a contract for 100,000 mortar shells in August 2022. Payment was made in advance, with some funds transferred abroad, but no arms were ever provided. Corruption has been a major stumbling block in Ukraine’s bid to join the European Union. The SBU said an investigation had “exposed” officials of the ministry of defence and managers of arms supplier Lviv Arsenal, “who stole nearly 1.5 billion hryvnias in the purchase of shells”.

Show threaddugmeupJan 28, 2024
Well the silver lining is that Zelensky is trying to clean this up
Show threadViking_HippieJan 28, 2024

Yeah, he’s trying to clean it up by banning opposition parties and consolidating news under his government’s control 🙄

You can be on Ukraine’s side against Russia’s illegal invasion without pretending that Zelinski is perfect, you know…

Zelensky nationalizes TV news and restricts opposition parties

Zelensky nationalizes TV news and restricts opposition parties

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Show threadSaganakiJan 28, 2024

All of those opposition parties banned have explicitly been in favor of Russia annexing Ukraine. Literally every one.

Not only that, you make it sound like he did this by himself. There has been a ton of parliamentary agreement and has also been upheld in numerous appeals (incl by judges not having any associations with Zelensky).

I’m by no means a “Zelensky-stan” and have my own criticisms, but either you are seriously being misled or malicious.

Show threadRodeo

you make it sound like he did this by himself.

He is the public face of the government. Of course he didn’t do everything by himself, good or bad. Everybody knows that already, it’s a stupid point to make. He’s chosen to take on the job of being his governments public face, and statements about government being directed at him personally is just part of the job.

Trump wasn’t personally throwing children in jail, but when people talk about the border detentions that happened during his presidency, we still say Trump did it.

Obama didn’t personally approve every drone strike, he was backed up by plenty of other politicians, but we still say Obama increased the drone strikes.

Jan 28, 2024 at 7:25pmWeb
Show threadSaganakiJan 28, 2024
Yes, but the insinuation is that he’s using war powers to permanently institute himself in charge using only his powers, which isn’t the case. Effectively I’m countering the “he’s a dictator” undertone.
Show threadRodeoJan 28, 2024

I didn’t get that insinuation at all.

Do you see the same insinuations with the statement “Obama increased drone strikes”?

I’m sure you’d happily support the insinuation that trump was a dictator if something similar were said about him.