More than one-third of Americans believe Israel is committing genocide, poll shows

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More than one-third of Americans believe Israel is committing genocide, poll shows - Lemmy NZ

  • 67% said a ceasefire should only happen if the hostages are released and Hamas is removed from power

  • 83% said October 7 was a terror attack, including 74% of those aged 18-24

  • 80% said they support Israel over Hamas, including 57% of those aged 18-24

  • 69% said Israel was trying to avoid civilian casualties in the Gaza Strip and 66% said Israel was just trying to defend itself

  • 74% said Hamas’s attack was genocidal

this is depressing.

I’m not going to comment on whether or not Hamas’ attack was genocidal, because even if they meant it to be, I just don’t they have the capability. but like… Israel is bombing fucking hospitals and refugee camps inside the strip. That’s not how you go about “avoiding civilian casualties”.

the only side worth supporting here are the civilians caught in the middle.

Hamas uses human shields and has been for a long time. We know this. Everyone knows this.
and they tunnel through the babies they eat, sure.

Israel tells you this and you just take their word for it.

Al Shifa was supposed to be a Hamas command center. Israel promised us it was a command center, they gave us audio recordings as proof, they had a whole mockup of the suspected underground facilities.

There wasn’t shit, just a sub basement Israel dug.

Stop believing Israel.

you’re not wrong.

but we’re still waiting for proof that Hamas has used a hospital as a base of operations.

another thing everyone knows: The IDF lies.

The IDF also targets journalists and journalists’ families.

And also take hostages.

Oh. I’m sorry. They detain protestors with no due process and round up more suspects when they make a swap…

Israel also uses human shields and they have been at the core of its expansion policy for decades. They call them “settlers.”

This double standard pisses me off more than just about anything else about the conflict. Israel is the undisputed champion of using civilians as cover for its military and expansionist goals.

Human shields should not be used. Human shields should not be bombed. I know this sounds like enlightened centrism, but it’s pretty clear, only the civilians were innocent. I cannot, simply cannot, support bombing a human shield. There is no point in defending it.

“Hamas uses human shields and has been for a long time. We know this. Everyone knows this.” only points to a clear bad guy if the human shield isn’t bombed. Never have I uttered one breath of support for Hamas. Using a human shield is deplorable.

Many different nations expressed support for the US in war efforts after 9/11. That support slowly dwindled as more and more atrocities were reported. Israel is speedrunning support loss.

If you don’t think Palestinians shouldn’t be used as human shields, I’ve got some bad news for you about the IDF.
Right. I’m with the civilians on both sides.
Excuse my ignorance but has Israel actually bombed a hospital?
How Gaza’s hospitals became battlegrounds

Attacks damaged or destroyed 20 of 22 hospitals in northern Gaza over the first two months of Israel’s war against Hamas, with half hit directly, CNN analysis finds.

CNN
Thanks. I assumed hospitals would get damaged in the fighting but I did not know some of them were literally flattened

There was a 12 year old girl that had her leg blown off at home by an IDF airstrike and her family killed.

When she was lying amputated in the hospital bed, an israeli tank shell blew her head off.

Literally all of them. There’s only the Nasser hospital in Khan Younis left but it’s barely functioning as it’s completely overwhelmed, and Khan Younis has been besieged for days. There were 36 in total
For real? They bomb a different one like every other fucking day.