lettruthoutSenate votes against Sanders resolution to force human rights scrutiny over Israel aid
jeffwAnyone got a list of who supported it?
Edit: so far I found that it was Sanders (duh), Rand Paul, and 9 democrats. Not sure who
Edit 2: per businessinsider.com/which-senators-voted-bernie-s…
Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky
Democratic Sen. Martin Heinrich of New Mexico
Democratic Sen. Jeff Merkley of Oregon
Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont
Democratic Sen. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland
Democratic Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts
Democratic Sen. Laphonza Butler of California
Democratic Sen. Ben Ray Lujan of New Mexico
Democratic Sen. Mazie Hirono of Hawaii
Democratic Sen. Peter Welch of Vermont
Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
Anyone got a list of who abstained? I want to know how large the Senate Genocide Caucus is.
Deceptichumhttps://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1182/vote_118_2_00008.htm
It’s fucked that it’s 15 Republicans and only 2 Dems abstaining.
Grassley is in hospital
If my arithmetic is correct, the Senate Genocide Caucus consists of 2 Independents, 32 Republicans, and 37 Democrats.
Darkassassin07=71. You’re short 1. (vote was 72-11)
I see what I did. I subtracted from 48 Republicans instead of 49. The Senate Genocide Caucus has 2 Independents, 33 Republicans, and 37 Democrats.
Rand (and Ron) Paul always confuses me.
What's there to be confused about?
Ron is a soft-spoken man who stood firm in his convictions, and was quietly friendly with white nationals and other horrible people. He's retired now.
Rand is a bit of a blow hard with no convictions, and is loudly friendly with white nationals and other horrible people. He's a sitting senator.
Because compared to other nameable Republicans, he occasionally votes in ways that are agreeable with many leftists. But like you said, he's also still a massive piece of shit.
proleEven a stopped clock is right twice a day…
Rand Paul accidentally stumbles into the correct opinion.
Doesn’t look like there are many scruples left in DC.
RiccosuaveThere weren’t any in the first place.
Well, at least it was the right method. They didn’t hide behind Biden.
Sigh, the US government never fails to disappoint.
Bernie Sanders is obviously a raging anti-Semite.
The ADL just declared that Jewish Voice for Peace are antisemitic so Bernie probably isn’t far behind.
I hope you are being sarcastic.
I am. I’m Jewish, and a Berniecrat. Bernie is a caricature if an old Jewish man.
PugJesusUnsurprising. Thank you, Bernie, for trying.
Every time America is about to/in process of making a mistake there’s a video of Bernie Sanders warning everyone not to do it.
Our very own Cassandra of Troy.
𝕽𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖙Bernie is a national treasure, we don’t deserve him
EdibleFriendAll the boomers purged their humanity so they could rape this planet. It formed into Bernie Sanders.
In a decent world Bernie would just be a normal guy.
That’s the sad part. We look at this dude saying just…seemingly normal humane things as one of the best people in politics.
Isnt that a proof that Israel dont respect human rights?
It is more proof that the US doesn’t give a shit.
It’s more proof that the US does give a shit, and that the US prefers that human rights not be respected.
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Fuck everyone that continues to support this genocide.
Important to note that this is a motion to table - so the “Yea” vote means they disagree with Bernie’s resolution.
39 Democrat senators (40 if you count Sinema) and 32 Republican senators.
I’d also like to remind people that 44 Democrats and 36 Republican senators voted to block the rail strike.
Procorporate trash. All of them.
Ok, so Rand Paul actually did a good thing? Broken clock, etc, etc…
What did anyone expect? Both sides take military industrial complex money
Don't think the MIC is the deciding factor here, nor that the MIC particularly cares whether aid is attached to human rights scrutiny.
Zuberi 👀MIC picked Israel > Ukraine and said it really didn’t matter if Biden won again, because both sides take military industrial complex money and will never allow ranked-choice voting.
I think the core here is that the MIC just wants to sell weapons and it doesn’t really matter who or where the ammunition use happens on or with , but that ammo is used and more ammo is bought.
What I meant by my comment is that they aren’t ‘picking sides’ so much as making sure that oversight isn’t enforced so arms sales can continue unimpeded.
This is the stupidest timeline.
Is this an active coup that’s been playing out since 60s or when ever this shadowy government does?
Is this the same thing like how one president get 1 free murder, no questions asked but like on large scales?
So everyone is calling it a genocide. Is there any reputable source deriving this claim?
In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”. These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.[1][2]
What part do you think is not happening?
Nothing of that. Its not like Israel is trying to kill Palestinians, but killing Hamas. And by doing so, the civilians of the country can die without it being a genocide. The allied forces didn’t commit a genocide in Dresden, Germany. And the US didn’t commit a genocide in Hiroshima.
In their tv broadcasts they have labeled every Palestinian man, woman, child, even baby as an enemy, and should be treated as such.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHDmWm4Ove0
Every baby in Gazais "an enemy," says Israeli analyst
katy ✨maybe not genocide - i’m not sure - but definitely ethnic cleansing
”They’re the same picture”
sapient [they/them]Honestly I’d just read South Africa’s court filing with the International Criminal Court (yes I know they’re hypocrites due to lukewarm attitudes to Putin’s actions but it doesnt change the facts in the specific case): www.icj-cij.org/…/192-20240112-pre-01-00-en.pdf
You dont have to read all of it. Even scrolling and just stopping randomly comes up with sone of the most horrific shit the government of Israel is doing and the stuff high level administrators have advocated for and said.
If you think the “human animals” comments and policies are bad, it gets so much fucking worse :/
【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】Here’s is the link to South Africa’s complaint: www.icj-cij.org/…/192-20231228-app-01-00-en.pdf
I’m not sure what your link is but it’s very barebones.
I didn’t read the entire complaint but a couple things stood out to me.
The most sensational claims in the document come from questionable media sources, directly from the Palestinians authorities, or are attributed to often unnamed sources or just “reports.”
Many of the incidents alleged are repeated dozens and dozens of times throughout the document, in different contexts. A handful of war crimes, even if proven, in a war, does not make the war a genocide.
It’s a complaint, so it includes no facts from Israel’s side of the story; none of the intelligence, none of Israel’s public explanations or press releases or videos.
The link is to a court filing with the UN.
And its not just the actions, its the statements by Israeli figures, which aren’t related to the PA/are easily externally verifiable.
They clearly demonstrate intent and action for genocide, and the most significant aspects like razing half of Gaza to the ground, bombing “”“safe zones”“” (which are already essentially force mass migration, and what about people who cant evacuate), preventing even the most basic access to food, water, electricity, healthcare, etc. are easy to see.
If you want more named sources, perhaps consider that Israel apparently loves to prevent journalistic entry and also bomb journalists in Gaza <.<
And we all know what Israel’s statements are. “Everything is a Hamas base, so lets use masses of high yield bombs in highly urbanised areas while deliberately bombing the zones we pretended were safe, and our officials cheer on mass slaughter of civilians while claiming no person in Gaza can be considered a civilian and comparing them to animals or filth to be removed”
The measure was a first-of-its-kind tapping into a decades-old law that would require the US state department to, within 30 days, produce a report on whether the Israeli war effort in Gaza is violating human rights and international accords. If the administration failed to do so, US military aid to Israel, long assured without question, could be quickly halted.
Those senators must be pretty confident that a report would find human rights violations. Why would they oppose it otherwise?
They love giving US the “if you have nothing to hide” argument 🤷
if you think israel didn’t do anything wrong, why oppose an investigation?
(also milosevic did the same thing in the 90s and was prosecuted for it by the icc - the us supported that then)
Serbia bad, Israel good. Realpolitik
Problem is is that Serbia wasn’t a nuclear power. That’s the thing about prosecuting war criminals, they can’t have a nuke that’s tied to their vital signs.
SuavevillainI’m supposed to believe the Dems that voted against also care about saving democracy? They don’t even care about basic human rights. We’re going full speed into the worst timeline.
Verdant Bananaif only democrats actually stood for what they say they stand for
we could of had eight years of bernie instead of eight years of further decline with trump and biden
During the Sheikh Jarrah incident I contacted everyone who legally represents me and told them to re-evaluate how freely they fund Isreal, they all gave me lots of lip service telling me they will consider it when opportunities arise and every last one of them voted against this. I don’t think I’ve ever in my life been accurately represented politically on a federal level, and the only reason that’s not true locally is because I’ve testified to local government committees on things that actually made it to the state house floor.
I wish I could give you a hug. It’s so useful to have your voice on this (and I assume other progressive matters?). There are many of us who feel the same way, and some of us are trying to regain our strength to try to improve the world again. Thanks.
Thank you. It’s tough to fight being disheartened when you constantly feel looked over, or like some politicians margin of error. They act like they’d rather lose my vote then consider my prerogatives.
LinkerbaanNow there’s two fascist parties…