Hamas releases video of three Israeli hostages saying they'll learn 'fate' on Monday

https://lemmy.world/post/10737569

Hamas releases video of three Israeli hostages saying they'll learn 'fate' on Monday - Lemmy.World

Noa Argamani seen for first time since she was kidnapped by Hamas fighters and taken away on the back of a motorbike on October 7

these fuckers gonna give more ammunition to explode gaza
It is Hamas’ goal to maximize martyrs, and they have officially stated so on several occasions. They were slowly losing the decades-long conflict with Israel (who have in no way been playing fair before this escalation btw). If they ensure enough suffering in their own population, they have more desperate traumatized orphans to recruit, more enraged sympathy from neighboring countries also in conflict with Israel, plus lessening the support from Israel’s western allies.
They already have more than enough recruits from Israel’s genocide.

“Actually, Hamas genocided their own people. You know, for like profit or something”

The American lib brainworms are literally wriggling out your ears

Learn to read before throwing out smug insults. They aren’t genociding, they’re baiting Israel into validating their existence as a militant force and bolstering support through martyrdom.

Do you understand the dynamics of an extremist organization? One facing an enemy many times better equipped than themselves? Or are you assuming they’re too stupid to realize what Israel’s response would be to oct 7?

Don’t put insanity in my mouth and then yell at me for it.
I have no coherent arguments, yet I must yell

They were slowly losing the decades-long conflict with Israel

Were they? If anything it seems Israel is the one losing international standing with every Israeli atrocity.

And they keep taking land in the West Bank and they’re pushing everyone in Gaza into a smaller and smaller area. Sounds like they’re getting what the leadership wants.

International standing only matters if America can get over playing blind defense for Netanyahu’s coalition. They know this, the SA case in the ICJ has shown quotes from Israeli leadership that are abhorrent. Bold statements of genocidal intent from people that don’t expect consequences to reach them.

I was referring to Israel slowly grabbing land and displacing the population in favour of their own settlers.
Oh I see. Hamas is mostly a Gazan organization, but I see what you mean.
I just don’t see a way that will end well for both sides when one side is exploiting the hatred towards another, while the other side is not keen on enabling such an extremist group.
I feel like people forget about this. Hamas wants their constituents to die. They want to put their weaponry and bases inside hospitals and places of worship because they know IDF will have to seize or attack them and making them look bad for damaging health facilities and mosques. I am pro-Palestine and pro-Israel, but I notice there’s a lack of nuance too often in the pro-Palestine movement. I know most Gazans are not involved in Hamas. But few realize that most Israeli citizens are uninterested in destroying Gaza. Israel’s military and executive leadership has made poor decisions. But this does not necessarily equate to the country at large being genocidal.
Noa is a friend of a friend. This whole thing has been utter shit and we still don’t know if she’s actually still alive.
Oy… sending love over the internet. A member of my community decided against going to nova the night before, I can only imagine what it’s been like for you.

Where’s the video?

Downvoted for bad reporting.

Follow up: Two of the hostages were killed by israeli airstrikes. The woman is still alive.

lemmy.world/post/10778089

Since Hamas doesn’t do ISISrael style hostage executions but actually treats hostages well this was not much of a surprising twist.

Hamas says two Israeli hostages have been killed by Israeli airstrikes - Lemmy.World

Hamas has released a video announcing the death of two Israeli hostages and claimed that they were killed by Israeli airstrikes. The video showed a female hostage named in Israeli media as Noa Argamani, 26, speaking under duress, revealing that two men she was held captive with had been killed in captivity. It was not clear when or where the video was filmed and there was no independent confirmation of Hamas’s claims. The three hostages were shown in a 37-second Hamas video released on Sunday in which the group urged the Israeli government to halt its aerial and ground offensive and bring about their release. The undated clip ended with the caption: “Tomorrow [Monday] we will inform you of their fate.” In a statement released with the new video, Hamas’s armed wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam brigades, said the two men, believed to be Yossi Sharabi, 53, and Itay Svirsky, 38, had been killed in “the Zionist army’s bombing”.

The idea that Hamas “treat hostages well” is such a viciously stupid and deceitful claim I don’t even know where to start. You should be ashamed of yourself for spreading such vile idiocy, and for accepting at face value the message of a desperate hostage held at gunpoint in a Jihadist terror dungeon.

Misleading reporting. For those who understand Arabic, it is clear that what they mean is that Israel bombing gaza is threatening the fate of hostages.

Hamas has repeatedly said they are treating hostages better than their own, protecting them and giving them food and water. Many of the released hostages reiterated this.

Whether you deny how they treat hostages is one thing, but this reporting here making it sound like Hamas is threatening the hostages is bad journalism.