Boeing’s #1 problem is not that they lack a culture of accountability.

It’s that they *hate unions* and *hate criticism.* So many of Boeing's major actions in the last 20, even 30 years have had to do with their attempts to break unions and escape political pressure in Washington State. The payoff is pressing workers without enough training, denigrating and overruling the work of union employees, and outsourcing work to avoid increasing union employment. This has cost them $10s of billions.

@glennf you mean it cost US tens of billions.
@jeffzugale Maybe their shareholders—airlines are the customers and there's competition with Airbus, etc.
@glennf they’re the biggest defense contractor to the US by far. Our tax dollars at work.
@jeffzugale Right, but this is out of a different pot. If they can charge what they lose to the defense budget, shame on us. Those contracts are pork barrel, but I don't think they regain tens of billions of losses from the consumer aviation market that way.
@glennf I don’t know how their divisions are structured, so I accept the notion of two pots. If you’re only referring to their airliner business, okay.
@jeffzugale I mean if they make $20 billion in the govt/mil side and lose $10 billion on the commercial, I assume that affects them overall!