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Deb4+ aka Deborah DT 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
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Mx. Aria Stewart@DeborahForPlus @maco I have three marriage anniversaries and no divorces.
Same spouse? Different rules?
@DeborahForPlus @maco Social wedding, not legal in our state of residence; Marriage that's legally binding, when we moved, for the health insurance. Then marriage that was legal in some several states, but not others; then marriage that was recognized federally.
Ah yes. Congratulations x 3 🎉 🎉🎉
We could've married in the state we were in, or in this one we moved to.
But we needed to work a few things out.
Obergefel Day was just perfect.
Travis F W@DeborahForPlus not yet, but I hope someday.
Jaddy@DeborahForPlus „if you've never had a Supreme Court decide if you have the same rights as others, you have privilege“
Well, not US Supreme Court, but German Federal Constitutional Court (Bundes-Verfassungsgericht). Multiple times.
Since 2009: No more forced divorce for #trans people to change name and legal gender.
Since 2011: No more forced sterilization for trans people to change name and legal gender.
This was the law since 1981. They wanted to prevent same sex pairs, especially with children.
Since 2017: Germany must recognize a third positive gender option (making it four: m, f, d and none). This became law 2019-01-01.
I waited until 2017 to start my #nonbinary transition.
This year, finally, Self-ID will hopefully become law without any court. It’s in the mill…
Thank you for explaining the situation in your country. It sounds like gradual improvement and no doubt more that can happen. And perhaps similar fears that the right will attempt to reverse our gains.
Since I know little German, I'm curious about M, F, D.
Is D something like our non binary? Google suggests maybe "diverse".
@DeborahForPlus Jepp, D is „divers“. No one (i.e. nonbinary and inter) is really happy with the word, but it’s okay enough to claim our rights.
Out constitutional court gave the former conservative legislature a deadline till end of 2018 to introduce a „third positive option“, after an inter person took their case to court.
Therefore, the conservative made the law as tight as possible to limit access to that option. We now have the four official gender markers, but different ways to get them. Inter people can use a medical certificate, but only if their DSD diagnosis is within the Chicago Consensus of 2005. If you’re not inter, you still need two psychiatric certificates, like binary trans persons. This option was also made available by a court ruling in 2020. Problem: There’re almost no psychiatric experts who know enough about nonbinary people.
With a little bit of luck, this all will be gone in a few weeks with the Self-ID law. Unfortunately, we also have a swing to the right and general election in 2025. We’ll see if the law will be in effect by then and whether the next government will keep it.
All exactly as the meme says.
Other people appoint themselves as getting to decide if we should have the same rights if we don't conform to their understanding of gender or sexual orientation.
Thanks for the information from Germany.
And ... I love catching glimpses of pre-French English in German - jepp being our "yup". Which probably you knew.
And guessing that faire in French and hacer in Spanish meant that the Latin would be facer! (Meanwhile we still have our Germanic "make"😉)
@DeborahForPlus *hehe* the regional dialect where I live near the North Sea, called Plattdüütsch, has had some influence on the english language. I guess the Angles brought it with them and it was spoken by the Hanse sea traders.
Wenn ik jo watt op platt vertell, denn is do een beten Englisch in.
When I tell you something (somewhat) in Plattdüütsch, then there’s a bit english in it.
👋
Very cool. Kinda could flow with it ...
Would that be near Friesland? Fresian (Frisian) being another in the family of influences as I understand it. // Wikipedia says yes ... Maybe I already knew this kinda //
I love languages.
It is near Friesland. There is Westfriesland in the Netherlands, also speaking a completely different Frisian language and Ostfriesland in Germany where Plattdüütsch is spoken. Also up to Denmark and eastwards along the baltic sea to Poland.
Has your family lived in that area "forever"?
I don't know how much moving around within Germany people do or have done in the past.
In the US, lots of moving for jobs or school, and of course the non-native people are all from somewhere else.