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MicroWave Jan 1, 2024

Dave Chappelle fills Netflix special with jokes about trans and disabled people

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Dave Chappelle fills Netflix special with jokes about trans and disabled people - Lemmy.World

Dave Chappelle has released a new Netflix special, The Dreamer, which is full of jokes about the trans community and disabled people. “I love punching down!” he tells the audience, in a one-hour show that landed on the streaming service today (31 December). It’s his seventh special for Netflix and comes two years after his last one, the highly controversial release The Closer. That programme was criticised for its relentless jokes about the trans community, and Chappelle revisits the topic in his new show. He tells jokes about trans women in prison, and about trans people “pretending” to be somebody they are not.

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Noble Shift Jan 1, 2024

My takes are - He’s doing this on purpose. He’s doing this for what he believes in, comedy, and the freedom to say what one wants no matter how distasteful, especially in comedy. Either everything is ok to be made fun of or nothing is. Pushing buttons and boundaries.

Or he’s a Troll and he’s out to top South Park.

Or he’s gone around the bend. Like bye bye …

I mean out of all the groups & things taking place in American and the World there’s a fuck tonne better people and groups to be taking the piss out of, and other boundaries that could use the pushing. Regardless of reasons the direction and optics are abysmal.

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eatthecake Jan 2, 2024

What is the difference between ‘pushing buttons and boundaries’ and trolling? I don’t think i can tell. It all seems designed to generate emotional responses and controversy.

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Lonnie123

I would say pushing boundaries (and maybe to a lesser extent just pushing buttons) is categorically different than trolling.

Trollings sole purpose is the reaction, to rile people up. You dont have any intention behind your words besides that. Or heck maybe you even lie to do it. “What if I post pictures of sad looking polar bears to Greta Thunbergs twitter account? Wouldnt that make her mad!? hahaha!” Thats a troll - Nothing is gained, nothing is learned, nothing is advanced.

Pushing boundaries is something different. You can have intent, social movement, and a message with it. Star Trek pushed boundaries when they had an interracial kiss, it wasnt just for shock value or trolling white people. Ellen coming out on TV pushed boundaries without trolling people.

Boundaries are generally placed by people for the purpose of holding certain groups back, and they deserved to be pushed and in fact broken. Trolling does none of that. Trolling is putting a flaming bag of shit on someones porch and ding-dong-ditching just to watch them get their shoe dirty. If they are old, fall over, and break their hip when they do it thats all the more fun to the troll.

Pushing buttons… more on the trolling end of things, but probably done in a more playful way, maybe even to someone you know and hope to have a positive relationship with afterwards. But really its a more mild form of trolling