"guys installing apps on linux is way easier all you do is <insert 3 or 4 worded command here>"

we literally have a ton of really polished gui app store apps that act as a frontend for flatpak and binary package managers, did we just forget those existed?

kde discover? mint software manager? gnome software? pop shop? appcenter? thats what you SHOULD be talking about, not this unintuitive command line shit -.-

do you really expect a windows user to install linux for the first time and think "ah yes time to open a terminal" so they can install their favourite web browser? get real. theyre gonna click on the shopping bag

@nano i wish i could recommend thse GUI app stores, but things like KDE Discover take time to looooaaaaaaaaaaadddddd

Also it's NOT verbose about flatpak dependencies which absolutely causes confusion

@Sqaaakoi why does the user ever need to know the dependencies of a flatpak

@nano it isn't about the dependencies themselves, it's about knowing how big they are and why it's taking so long to download

the dependencies are my #1 reason why I avoid flatpak, they're updated too often and are REALLY BIG updates

@nano ah, 2MiB application is really 800MiB of shared dependencies
@Sqaaakoi flatpak does deduplication, also youre exaggerating really badly
@nano i know i'm exaggerating
i just don't use flatpak enough to make the big dependencies worth it
@nano nvm i'm not exaggerating; NVIDIA driver runtimes are really big for very slightly different versions