At #37c3 they have IRC, and Matrix for text and for voice they setup their own LTE/2G/3G/SIP/DECT network where you bring whatever phone-like device and pick a 4 digit phone number.

Meanwhile in the USA for #defcon they just paid Discord money and told everyone to accept their privacy policy, and even the DC Privacy Village asks people to sign up for Slack and Google.

People ask why I fly to CCC from the USA. It is because that is the closest place to find a thriving hacker culture.

@lrvick I've seen a talk where audience blamed speakers for using #github - #37c3
@Kurt @lrvick why? Because its MS?

@DO1HMN @Kurt @lrvick the one I have seen where this happened was about a large advertising network owned by Microsoft. The authors had a lot of criticism but put their code to analyse it on GitHub, which is owned by Microsoft.

Someone from the audience then criticized them for now contributing to the problem by hosting their code at GitHub and sending people to a Microsoft controlled platform.

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