Collision ResistanceIsrael orders ‘death corridor’ evacuation for Palestinians in central Gaza
QuokkaDo they expect them to grow wings?
Can’t go north, can’t go south, can’t go central, can’t go down, where are they meant to go?
blahsayPerhaps they could go get those hostages?
Prolonging this war is just causing harm to Palestinians. Hamas needs to surrender now.
Why would Hamas surrender? This is great for them. They need war to justify their existence, and they don’t care about the civilians of Gaza much more than the IDF does.
DarkGamerPerhaps Palestineans shouldn't support a group that's willing to kill so many of them, (polls indicate Hamas has widespread public support both in Gaza and the West Bank,) evidently this is what said civilians want.
Why do you self upvote?
Are you that desperate for internet points?
Do you just want someone to see your little upvote like priming the tip jar?
What makes you so desperate?
I know another person that acts the same way, are you @downpunxxx alt?
Yeah, why all those newborns did not walk to take and free the hostages before getting bombed I ask? Too lazy? It’s their fault certainly… /s
You’d be better off asking why Hamas started a war they knew they’d lose, why the prolong it in the face of their people suffering.
Even better maybe ask why you support them? How have they made life better for their people? This situation was completely predictable and completely avoidable.
You're right, it was completely avoidable. Bibi could have followed through on all that intelligence telling him of a pending Hamas attack. Hell, he could have never funded Hamas in the first place, which is why they even have power.
Completely avoidable.
Pretty sure Hamas was democratically elected but if you need to shift blame back to Israel with some impressive mental gymnastics go right ahead.
If you could put down your hate for two seconds it’s time to realise Hamas aren’t winning this and dragging this war out is just hurting Palestinians.
Calling Hamas “democratically elected” is a huge stretch. Hamas recieved 44.45% of votes in the last election, which was in 2006. The average Palestinian has about as much chance of freeing those hostages as I have of breaking people out of Guantanamo.
Or I could ask why they were being financed by Israel. Could I ask that too, couldn’t I?
Thanks for being brave enough to focus on important questions like who funds Hamas.
Too many people are getting distracted by silly things like humanitarian crises but you’re out here fighting the real fight!
Oh yeah, Israeli governments sending tons of cash to Hamas is totally unrelated. That’s why you’d prefer to not talking about. Not because it breaks the narrative of the poor innocent israel.
Love how you pro-hamas guys will do anything, anything except something that will help the Palestinians.
Who is pro-hamas? Hamas never got my money, Israeli money on the other hand… yeah, of that money they’ve got a lot. But do not let facts disturb your ideology ok?
My ideology is that suffering should be minimised. I’d hope we could agree on that.
At this point be honest - is dragging this war out going to minimise suffering or maximise it?
Good question: ask Israeli leaders who mantain an apartheid state, while financing terrorists. Feel free to post their answer.
First of all fuck Hamas and Israel both, just to get their dickriders to STFU.
So how do you feel about the Ukrainians?
Is it all war you want to end or just this particular one?
My ideology is that suffering should be minimised.
Is that why you side with the perpetuators of the suffering? Or is it just a coincidence that you treat criticism of Israel's numerous crimes as pro-Hamas rhetoric?
I’m curious though - you think Israel is funding and puppeting Hamas? As an excuse to roll over Gaza?
I think? Major newspapers, including Israeli ones think. From what I’ve read in order to make harder/impossible a path towards a two state solution. Since Israel always aimed at rob all the land and keep the apartheid regime.
Ok so Israel is behind Hamas in your eyes.
Cool. Then what’s the simple solution to stopping Israel? Hamas surrenders. Boom, no more excuse for war.
So show you’re serious. Call for the Israeli puppet to surrender
Are you 12?
Are you 12?
The whattaboutist you're responding to is referring to this, (archival link because paywall)
Netanyahu let Qatari money into Gaza to prop up Hamas and divide and conquer Palestine by supporting the PA's rival in Gaza. Evidently he didn't think Hamas was willing or capable of what they did on Oct 7. This is one of the reasons he is so incredibly unpopular in Israel right now.
Hamas is supported by Iran, and they have evidently been using crypto to get funds to them (archival link:
Iran has long been Hamas’s primary benefactor, with the U.S. putting regular funding from Tehran at roughly $100 million a year. Hamas also has earned income from a global investment portfolio, raised money through charitable organizations, and skimmed off funds from official foreign aid and tax revenues in Gaza.
Whattaboutist? Must be nice to be able to turn on and off your own coscience. At least you can sleep I suuppose.
... You mean the humanitarian crisis that Israel explicitly and intentionally created, has purpetuates for decades, and refuses to do anything about?
Occupies oppressed People don't behave rationally. Also, Nyet n yahoo knew all about the attack for most off a Year and ignored the danger because he needed this excuse to try and distract from his corruption. Criticism of the Israel is not support. Oh, and it is very telling that you think the Palestinian "newborns" mentioned are hamas.
Gazans were in an open air prison prior to October. Israel bombed Gaza pretty regularly, and Hamas said that their October attack was in retaliation.
Hamas explained all this in an interview with the New Yorker. Gazans tried peaceful unarmed protest and were shot by the IDF. They asked the international community for help but the Israeli government labeled it “diplomatic terrorism” and sanctioned Palestinians. What choice did they have left but to fight when nonviolent resistance got nowhere?
girlfreddyEsp since (prior to the war) 50% of the Palestinian population was children.
Never believe the IDF when they say they didn’t target kids.
Prove it. All evidence indicates they don't care much about collateral damage but do go to great lengths to choose legal military targets.
Yeah! It’s like all of those decapitated babies!
The IDF never lies!
Seriously, what’s with the self upvoting?
Why do you care? You've made multiple comments about this now in multiple threads. Most social media platforms upvote your own posts by default. Now you're going through my history and downvoting everything because you're butthurt, and you call me pathetic, lol. Have fun wasting your time on something so petty! Be sure not to miss any.
What evidence? You seem to enjoy making comments but provide little to no verfiable proof of such.
Oh, and here’s mine.
None of that indicates that the IDF intentionally targets kids. Those are likely collateral damage, considering Hamas hides among civilians.
Israel literally built an AI to help them select legal military targets faster than humans can. This would be an odd thing to do if they were targeting civilians and didn't care about military objectives.
Sad little gamer must upvote his own posts to feel love.
That makes me a sad panda
You asked for proof. I gave some.
Where’s yours? Did you forget or just ignore?
You asked for proof. I gave some.
Actually, you didn't. Yours is a claim of intention, which that article does not establish.
Good to know that isn't a credible source, thanks. Feel free to learn about said AI elsewhere.
Then here’s more sources. I’ll wait for you to provide similar for your statements.
npr.org/…/israel-gaza-hamas-children-population-w…
ohchr.org/…/unchilded-birth-un-expert-calls-decis…
aljazeera.com/…/gaza-has-become-a-graveyard-for-t…
reliefweb.int/…/unicef-state-palestine-humanitari…
aljazeera.com/…/war-is-stupid-and-i-want-it-to-en…
Do you bother reading these articles? Please cite where it says Israel INTENTIONALLY TARGETS children. As far as I can see, these articles are all about how many children are killed by these strikes, and none proves said claim.
Killing a lot of children does not mean Israel TARGETS children. I didn't think this was a difficult concept to understand.
You asked for proof and I’ve given you lots that show the Palestinian child population is about 50%. Therefore there is a 1 in 2 chance any bombs will kill children. And seeing as the IDF has admitted they hit schools and hospitals, which are used by children (or specifically for paediatrics/birthing) the IDF has intentionally targeted cheldren.
If you have verifiable proof all the bombing of schools and hospitals was 100% accidental, show it.
Otherwise sit down.
You asked for proof and I’ve given you lots that show the Palestinian child population is about 50%. Therefore there is a 1 in 2 chance bombs will kill children. And seeing as the IDF has admitted they hit schools and hospitals, which are used by children (or specifically for paediatrics/birthing) the IDF has intentionally targeted children.
No. That's evidence that they don't care much about collateral damage, if anything. Those places were made into valid military targets when Hamas used them to launch attacks from while hiding behind Palestinian children.
I'll presume that said evidence doesn't exist because you'd rather run around in circles than present it.
If you have verifiable proof all the bombing of schools and hospitals was 100% accidental, show it.
Israel has already stated its aim is to hunt Hamas to extinction and at least temporarily occupy Gaza.
Sounds like a good reason to surrender, unless they prefer extinction.
Are you really so sad you have to upvote your own posts?
That’s pathetic
If there was no Hamas, Israeli settlers would still be committing terrorist acts on unarmed Palestinians in West Bank and right wing politicians would still be threatening to tear down Al Aqsa. If Hamas vanished tomorrow, none of that would change.
Dude, firstly that's called collective punishment, which is a war crime if that even matters anymore. Secondly, this was never about hostages, it's about cleansing Palestine. The hostages were just an excuse.
FuglyDuck“To Hell. Duh.”- IDF officer, maybe
I remember when at the beginning people warn of genocide and some kept saying idf ask people to evacuate south but they didn’t leave.
We know through history they will keep moving the goal post as they go through the genocide plan.
Remember l folks, there is no aid, no clean water, no hospitals, no journalist, and no medical aid. If not bomb, disease, hunger and living condition will kill people.
We know through history they will keep moving the goal post as they go through the genocide plan.
"Through history?" seems like you're implying Israel has committed genocide in the past. Perhaps you're thinking of Palestinian forces?
Following the Arab Legion's expulsion of the Jewish residents of the Old City in the 1948 War, Jordan allowed Arab Muslim refugees to settle in the vacated Jewish Quarter. Later, after some of these refugees were moved to Shuafat, migrants from Hebron took their place. Abdullah el Tell, a commander of the Arab Legion, remarked:
"For the first time in 1,000 years not a single Jew remains in the Jewish Quarter. Not a single building remains intact. This makes the Jews' return here impossible"
In his memoir's Col. El Tell outlined his decision to attack Jewish Quarter:
"The operations of calculated destruction were set in motion. I Knew that the Jewish Quarter was densely populated with Jewish populations who caused their fighters a good deal of interference and difficulty. I embarked, therefore on shelling of the quarter with mortars creating harassment and destruction. Only for days after our entry into Jerusalem, the Jewish Quarter become their graveyard. Death and destruction reigned over it. As the down of May 28th was about to break, the Jewish Quarter emerged in convulsive cloud-a cloud of death and agony"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamization_of_Jerusalem#Islamization_of_Jerusalem_under_Jordanian_rule
“Through history?” seems like you’re implying Israel has committed genocide in the past. Perhaps you’re thinking of Palestinian forces?
I am not implying, I am stating they did because it is there in wikipedia if you care to look for it…
I have no idea what you're referring to, and I would appreciate a citation if true.
No way! , you were focused enough to find article that supports your points of view but cannot find, in the same website, articles, that doesn’t support your points of view?
At least don’t play ignorance in the internet is not worth it.
All I see via google is a wikipedia article about, "Palestinean genocide accusation."
Those who believe Israel's actions constitute genocide typically point to the phenomena of anti-Palestinianism, Islamophobia, anti-Arab racism in Israeli society, and they cite the Nakba, the Sabra and Shatila massacre, the blockade of the Gaza Strip, the 2014 Gaza War and the 2023 Israel–Hamas war as material instantiations of genocide.
International law and genocide scholars have accused Israeli officials of using dehumanizing language. During the 2023 Israel-Hamas war, historian of genocide Omer Bartov warned that statements made by top Israeli officials "could easily be construed as indicating a genocidal intent."
Israel, the United States, the Anti-Defamation League and other organizations, and some law and genocide scholars have rejected the assertion that Israel is engaging in genocide. While some scholars describe Palestinians as victims of genocide, others argue they are not victims of genocide, but rather of ethnic cleansing, politicide, spaciocide, cultural genocide or similar; still others argue that none of these have occurred.
This is hardly conclusive, very refutable, and certainly not as compelling an example of genocide as the above. I had hoped you had better evidence. I can see why you didn't cite this.
Well good job, now you got some incident we need to get to the next stage.
You have a piece of fact about civilians being shot throughout different periods of time.
You need to research what constitutes a genocidal act, what constitutes a massacre, and finally find out if these incident were or were not conform to the definition.
Apparently there is no consensus among experts regarding this, and I am no expert, but based on what I've read any such definitions applied to Israel depend on treating an actively belligerent nation like an ethnic group. I believe this is inappropriate.
The holocaust was a genocide because Germans intended to wipe out an ethnic group. Israel may be killing a lot of Palestinians but they are not trying to collectively destroy Arabs. They are acting in self-defense retaliating against a hostile nation that intends to commit genocide against Jews, (yet again.) If destroying a national group in whole or in part in defense while they are actively trying to kill you is a genocide, that makes just about every defensive military action in history count as genocide.
What I see here is defense against genocidal groups being unfairly and inaccurately described as genocide itself. But again, I am no expert.
That’s the point
"Please move to the next camp/strategic bombing location"
-Israel, probably