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Icedrous Dec 18, 2023

Controllers are good for FPS games, especially on PC, and we have to stop pretending like they’re not

https://sh.itjust.works/post/11234188

Controllers are good for FPS games, especially on PC, and we have to stop pretending like they’re not - sh.itjust.works

Every time someone brings up a controller vs mouse and keyboard, most of if not all comments will push towards the OP to “switch to mouse and keyboard” because “it’s better!” In my eyes, the person is already accustomed to controller, they’re used to the sensitivity, and if not it’s a quick change. If they’re going to get used to mouse and keyboard they need to: - find a reasonable mouse - find a reasonable mousepad for their situation - find out if they’re a wrist aimer or an arm aimer - make sure their windows mouse sensitivity is set to 6/11 for some reason otherwise everything else will be messed up - find their “optimal sensitivity” many of which tutorials are (subjectively) hard to find (the good ones) I’m both a controller and mouse and keyboard user but I find it easier to aim with a controller. It feels natural.

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qwertyqwertyqwerty Dec 18, 2023

I’m both a controller and mouse and keyboard user but I find it easier to aim with a controller. It feels natural.

This is fine. You can have a preference. The rest of your post, however, is objectively incorrect, or at best misleading.

For example, in order for me, a keyboard and mouse user, to get used to a controller, I would need to:

Find a reasonable controller
Find out how I can best grip the controller for my use case
Make sure the game’s controller sensitivity is set correctly for my use case

See how that’s basically the same arguments you are making against using a K&M?

Also, there have been FPS competitions where people with controllers go absolutely demolished by K&M players. When it comes to competitive FPS gaming, K&M has large advantages over controllers. Even some single-player console FPS games have enabled auto-aim by default, and left the setting disabled by default on PC for K&M players, because using a controller is more difficult than a K&M for FPS.

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Icedrous Dec 18, 2023

Okay but you don’t need to be competitive to have fun. The basics for controller is if you’re on PlayStation, get a dual sense. Xbox, Xbox controller. Switch, pro controller. Going through the sensitivities for controller is a hell of a lot simpler than going through sensitivities for keyboard and mouse.

The barrier of entry is far lower for controller than it is for keyboard and mouse. If you can’t figure out you need a basic controller for your console, especially considering most times consoles come with controllers anyway, I don’t know what to tell you.

You can’t tell me it’s “objectively wrong” then list inconsistencies like that.

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MisterFeeny

The title of your post begins as "Controllers are good for FPS games, especially on PC".

Now it's about having fun and a lower barrier of entry, not competitiveness.

It's fine you prefer controller, but you're moving the goalposts here. The title and body of your initial post isn't about having fun, it's about what is "good for fps games." K&M is, I'm sorry to tell you, objectively better in that sense.

Side note, as for your "lower barrier of entry" for a controller part, you also specified from the beginning, "especially on PC". If you're playing on PC specifically, you already have a K&M. A controller is not a lower barrier of entry on that platform, it's an additional purchase vs. something everyone on that platform would already own.

You're using a list of inconsistencies to deny why you are "objectively wrong".