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Israel military begins pumping seawater into Hamas tunnels, report says

Environmental experts caution pumping seawater into underground tunnels could result in long-lasting consequences for groundwater in Gaza Strip #israel #hamas #gaza #hamastunnels #worldnews

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-hamas-tunnels-seawater-gaza-b2463093.html

Israel military begins pumping seawater into Hamas tunnels, report says

Environmental experts caution pumping seawater into underground tunnels could result in long-lasting consequences for groundwater in Gaza Strip

The Independent
Dec 14, 2023 at 4:19pmWeb
Show threadJaysynDec 14, 2023

Also, it's really not a very effective tactic. See ant beds & humanity's 3000+ years of tunnel engineering knowledge for more information.

Nitrogen would probably be more effective.

Show threadDarkGamerDec 14, 2023
I suspect it's easier to acquire large amounts of sea water than pure nitrogen, and sea water will presumably drive them out rather than just killing them. You're right, if they have air traps where the tunnels go up and down it will limit the effectiveness of this approach, I wonder if they do.
Show threadproleDec 14, 2023

Literally salting the earth. If they are ever going to allow Palestinians to return to their land, then they’re going to make sure it’s barren first.

The “good guys.”

Show threadDarkGamerDec 14, 2023
What should they do instead?
Show threadproleDec 15, 2023
What should they do besides literal genocide? Gee, I dunno, fucking anything?
Show threadDarkGamerDec 15, 2023

Yes yes Grandpa, everything is genocide, pumping sea water is genocide, defending yourself against a monocultural nation that constantly attacks you and murders your civilians is genocide…

I guess they should just… do nothing? Let Hamas keep the tunnels? Send in soldiers to the tunnels to die? Evidently you have don't have any better ideas but you're sure keen on criticizing.

Show threadproleDec 15, 2023
Nah. Established definitions of genocide by the UN is genocide, and it’s been happening in Gaza for decades.
Show threadDarkGamerDec 15, 2023

Genocide is a claim of intent. That's only if israel intends to eradicate them in whole or in part which has not been established, there have been a few troubling comments from Israeli government officials but not from those in charge.

Hamas and other Palestinian groups are quite explicit about their intention to commit genocide. It's in Hamas' original charter. They seem to be the ones you're concerned about protecting by binding Israel's hands.

The UN treats national groups like ethnic groups for their definition, which I don't think is appropriate. If retaliating against a hostile nation in war with intention to destroy them at whole or in part, is genocide, this implies that October 7th was also an act of genocide, and every chant of, "from the river to the sea," is a call for genocide.

It seems like you approve of genocide, just by the other party. You're certainly going to great lengths to generate outrage about Israel defending themselves against a genocidal opponent.

I think it's clear you're just throwing around the words you think are most outrage generating, regardless of whether they actually are applicable here.