Taggart Dec 13, 2023
There are basically two irreconcilable camps in the Threads debate here.

- Camp 1, understandably, wants nothing to do with Meta and view them as an existential threat to the Fediverse for plenty of well-precedented reasons.

- Camp 2, also understandably, sees potential in connecting a managed platform that appeals to entities like news outlets and other services to the Fediverse, enabling us to access that information without requiring an account on a Meta-owned platform.

Camp 1 will not cede ground because they view the issue as existential.

Camp 2 will, I dunno, deal with it or move to a server where they can see what they want to see?

But given the scale of Threads already, widespread blocking of it will create a pretty noticeably weird gap in the federation graph, and make onboarding for new potential Fedi users even more confusing. That part, by itself, kinda sucks.
Show threaddeltatux Dec 14, 2023
@mttaggart personally I find that there's still value in federation with Threads. Even if you make it a "limited" federation, at least it gives users the choice if they want to see content there or not.

There are going to be government agencies, news agencies and other organizations would establish themselves on whatever platform that they believe is where the mainstream is. As much as we constantly make noise to have them come to the fediverse or "Mastodon", that's not where your average users are as much as we try to say otherwise. Most people are on either Threads or Twitter for microblogging, for the most part. Other platforms are still niche.

These organizations still provide vital information about local communities and safety information, no matter how problematic the platforms themselves can be, there's still valuable information there.
Show threadTaggart Dec 14, 2023
@deltatux This is essentially my position, but with the understanding that for a huge chunk of Fedi, that will simply be unpalatable. and that to achieve this, I may have to move to my own instance.
Show threaddeltatux 
@mttaggart ya, I get why they make their stance to oppose federation but at the same time, it's my understanding that a lot of flagship or "major" instances are open to federating. The main Mastodon instances (Mastodon.social & Mastodon.online) seems to signal in the past that they're open to federation. Right now I'm seeing that pixelfed's creator is actively playing with the only Threads account that's being federated right now (in its limited capacity).

Not sure what Jerry's thoughts are regarding Threads federation. I know some regional instances are either open to federating or open to limiting/unlisting Threads so it won't flood the public/instance timeline but still give people the choice to see Threads content if they so choose to.

Personally tried running my own instance, even with running Akkoma which is quite lightweight for single user instances, I can't even find the time to keep up with sysadmining these days because life lol. So I'm hoping the instances I'm on are open to federating with Threads (either fully open or even limited/unlisted is good too).
Dec 14, 2023 at 4:29amWeb
Show threadTaggart Dec 14, 2023
@deltatux Untagging Jerry because the poor guy has made his stance clear enough on other posts, but yeah you and I are on the same page here.
Show threaddeltatux Dec 14, 2023
@mttaggart ah ok, I think I might have missed it, so was he for it, open to limiting or not looking to federate?
Show threadTaggart Dec 14, 2023
@deltatux infosec.exchange/@jerry/111575098089860174
Jerry Bell :verified_paw: :donor: :verified_dragon: :rebelverified:​ (@[email protected])

I have threads silenced on Infosec.exchange, .town, and fedia.social. That means people here won’t see stuff from threads, but you have the option to follow and interact or outright block the threads instance. There are some, though, that are hyper opposed and not finding that to be sufficient. Hypothetically speaking, if I were to create another instance that did hard block threads (activitypub, DNS, firewall, etc), would what would be the type of instance would you like to see? [ ] Mastodon vanilla [ ] Mastodon+glitch [ ] Iceshrimp [ ] Something else (comment) [ ] You are dead to me for not yeeting threads into the sun

Infosec Exchange
Show threaddeltatux Dec 14, 2023
@mttaggart ah thanks so much, good to see that it was recently addressed, thanks!
Show threadBen Montour Dec 14, 2023
@mttaggart @deltatux On the same page here too. I like the ability to follow somebody if they chose to be on Threads. But I also don't want to see the volume of noise that Threads generates drowning out everything else. It is nice to be able to keep up with something there without needing to be subjected to having a Meta account or seeing ad’s and such other promoted things (do they do that there? No idea honestly, but I assume so.)
Show threadTaggart Dec 14, 2023
@benmontour @deltatux Precisely. As I've said elsewhere, it would be rad if government orgs and news outlets really maintained presences here. But if they don't, I still want (need?) access to that information.

As for ads, this is definitely the honeymoon period where they're trying to build the userbase. The ads will come later.
Show threadBen Montour Dec 14, 2023
@mttaggart @deltatux Thankfully we here outside of Threads won't be subjected to those. While still maintaining the benefit of being able to keep up with activity there.