When will Mickey Mouse enter the public domain?

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When will Mickey Mouse enter the public domain? - Lemmy.World

This iconic mouse is weeks away fromn being in the public domain Jan. 1, 2024, is the day when ‘Steamboat Willie’ enters the public domain

Even with the character in Public Domain, I doubt Disney would be particularly happy with anyone using it.

They can send cease and desist letter left and right, claiming that "the use of the mouse is fine, but the elements X, Y and Z were introduced in a later work of ours that's still protected", even if it's a plain lie.

Trying to take Disney to court is suicide.

The have enough money to hire half the lawyers in the world and make them come up with a lawsuit even if there's no basis for one. They can stretch the lawsuit process to last years, and yet the fees would be but a fraction of a fraction of a percent in their yearly spending. Almost any defendant, meanwhile, would be financially ruined by it, even if they end up winning.

I find it insane that anyone should be allowed to use Mickey Mouse. Similarly, the 30s version of Superman is in public domain, soon, and that is similarly insane to me.

These are still Active properties closely tied with a company’s marketing and image. We badly need to update our IP laws.

The point of patents and copyrights is to promote and reward creative artists and inventors, not create a permanent revenue stream for corporations. Walt Disney died in 1966 and he, his investors, his heirs, and even their heirs have all been handsomely rewarded.

Now let’s get Steamboat Mickey in Smash Bros.

Steamboat Mickey could be in Smash Bros if Nintendo wanted to license it, but IIRC Smash Bros is specifically only properties owned by Nintendo on purpose. Smash Bros is effectively free advertising for other Nintendo games, in addition to a fighter.

I don’t see why Disney, rather than Walt himself, shouldnt own the copyright on Mickey Mouse.

Because the whole point of copyrights is to promote creativity. No one at Disney today had anything to do with creating Mickey Mouse. Why should they have the exclusive right to create derivative works? The people who are there seem perfectly capable of coming up with new characters. And the copyright expiring will push them to do so.

And besides, it’s not really about Mickey Mouse. It’s also about art, music, and literature. Beethoven’s heirs shouldn’t be getting a check every time an orchestra plays the 5th Symphony.

Why should they have the exclusive right to create derivative works?

Because Mickey Mouse is a core brand to the company. It’s literally referred to as the “House of Mouse”

Then Disney Inc will need to get creative and figure out a new way to brand itself. That’s whe reason why copyright is limited, not eternal.

That’s whe reason why copyright is limited, not eternal.

It very literally is not.

You do realize there’s a metric ton of non-Nintendo characters in Smash, right? It’s essentially a celebration of gaming as a whole. Mickey isn’t a video game character though, that’s why they used Sora. Same reason Goku and Superman aren’t in Smash.
Mickey is kinda a video game character if you think about it.
He’s been in games, but he’s definitely not a ‘video game character’ in the way that Mario, Sonic, and Cloud Strife are.
Sorry it was just a joke. I didn’t think I needed a /j, but I should know better. Poe’s law.
Oh no, all the words are copyrighted!
Smash Bros is supposed to be a celebration of the gaming industry, not just Nintendo. Minecraft Steve/Alex and Banjo/Kazooie are Microsoft properties. Joker is owned by SEGA, and Persona 5 wasn’t even on Switch until years after Joker was announced for Smash. Sephiroth and Cloud are Square Enix properties. Sora is a Disney property. There are way too many non-Nintendo characters in Smash for it to be “free advertising” for Nintendo.
You and I have very different Smash rosters. Glad to see Nintendo licensed some dudes
Snake and Sonic are in the base game.
Since when have Nintendo owned Final Fantasy? Or Metal Gear? It’s not only things they own.