@jpaskaruk The "Anarchist" that you talked to was wrong and horribly misinformed. Anarchism is the absence of hierarchy and authority, NOT the absence of order and structure. Order and structure are necessary for any society to function. Without order and structure, without all of society being united under a shared ideological platform, an Anarchist society would become weak and be taken over by authoritarianism.
@Radical_EgoCom To be fair, since Anarchism is very individualist there is no unified "anarchist viewpoint". He wasn't misinformed or wrong, just didn't go with the usual idea of anarchist society. @jpaskaruk
@jpaskaruk I mean, we have seen and still can see anarchist ideals in practice. Zapatists, Zomians, Kurdish revolutionaries to name a few. The hierarchical, cutthroat order we devolved into is the primary reason we're so barbaric. Because the people allowed to grab power will never give it back. For me, anarchism is the absence of said power and system allowing power hungry megalomaniacs to enforce their will upon others.

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@jpaskaruk @szczur @Radical_EgoCom Stories of a past that was not nasty and brutish are literal archeology. The "nasty and brutish" story was made up of whole cloth by Thomas Hobbes to support the emerging world dominance of capital. It's not based on anything factual, it's a religious dogma of the capitalist world-system. David Graeber and David Wengrow make this argument in painstaking detail in The Dawn of Everything.

https://search.worldcat.org/title/1289231491

The dawn of everything : a new history of humanity | WorldCat.org

"For generations, our remote ancestors have been cast as primitive and childlike--either free and equal innocents, or thuggish and warlike. Civilization, we are told, could be achieved only by sacrifi

@jpaskaruk @szczur @Radical_EgoCom It's worth reading, and not hard for non-experts, which is a rare quality in science writing. Enjoy!

But what does the KR have to do with anything? Obviously without violent hierarchy there's no KR. Do you think capitalism has any fewer victims? They're just hidden away better instead of having their skulls on display.

@szczur @AdrianRiskin @jpaskaruk @Radical_EgoCom

Identifying social strategies that people have developed—and critically, implemented in ways that allow us to know that they work empirically—to resist hierarchy, authority, and violent self-aggrandizers should not be understood as “anti-technology.”

It’s a fallacy to presume that because something useful existed in the past, we must somehow “return to the past” in order to make use of it.

@HeavenlyPossum While I agree with you I find it very important to point out that anarchism is not an utopia people generally call it. It’s been there all the time. @AdrianRiskin @jpaskaruk @Radical_EgoCom

@jpaskaruk @szczur @Radical_EgoCom @AdrianRiskin

Yes. We know it’s both achievable and sustainable because it has been achieved and sustained.