Nina KalininaNov 30, 2023

It is official now: Russia's Supreme Court declared "extremist" and banned the "LGBT movement".

A single display of LGBT flag, offline or online, is punishable by a fine.
In case of multiple offenses, the punishment is up to 4 years in prison.
Activism, online or offline, and potentially donations to LGBT charities, are punished by up to 6 years in prison.
Allies of LGBT activism are now legally banned from elections.

And there is a new law coming up, "justification" of "extremism" online (as in, not denouncing), punishing it by a prison sentence of up to five years.

Show threadawkapumaNov 30, 2023
@nina_kali_nina Can you post the original site or the source of this? Its really bad they do that! But i wanna check the original source of this information, preferably a link to the original declation of the supreme court. Today fake news and misinformation are as terrible as the attack on human rights and LGBT. Thanks a lot.
Show threadJune 🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵Nov 30, 2023

@awkapuma @nina_kali_nina

- https://apnews.com/article/russia-lgbtq-crackdown-extremist-supreme-court-1b8f4cd8708d1c6cf3486c5f27fd7354

- https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/top-russian-court-bans-lgbt-movement-extremist-2023-11-30/

- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67565509

- https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20231130-russia-s-top-court-bans-international-lgbt-movement-over-extremism

Russia’s Supreme Court outlaws LGBTQ+ activism in landmark ruling

Russia’s Supreme Court has effectively outlawed LGBTQ+ activism, in the most drastic step against advocates of gay, lesbian and transgender rights in the increasingly conservative country. Ruling Thursday in response to a lawsuit filed by the Justice Ministry, the court labeled what it called the LGBTQ+ “movement” operating in Russia as an extremist organization, and banned it. The ruling is the latest step in a crackdown on LGBTQ+ rights in Russia under President Vladimir Putin. The Justice Ministry brought the lawsuit, arguing that authorities had identified “signs and manifestations of an extremist nature” by an LGBTQ+ movement in Russia that incited "social and religious discord,” although it offered no details. Amnesty International called the ruling “shameful and absurd.”

AP News
Show threadawkapumaNov 30, 2023
@Guildz @nina_kali_nina ¿Does anyone can find the original statement (in russian) of Russia's supreme court? (Верховный суд)? Thanks again.
Show threadJune 🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵Nov 30, 2023
@awkapuma @nina_kali_nina I dont speak russian and couldn't navigate the supreme court website well with google translate - I kept getting search errors and also couldn't figure out what kind of ruling this would be  I did try though - here it is if you speak russian: https://vsrf.ru/ and here is where I got stuck: https://vsrf-ru.translate.goog/lk/practice/acts?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Верховный Суд Российской Федерации

Верховный Суд Российской Федерации
Show threadawkapumaNov 30, 2023

@Guildz @nina_kali_nina Thanks, same problem here. As we dont speak russian, its hard to find the original source.
Here 2 articles, show some differences about the news.
"a single display of LGBT flag" will be punished? Is not clear. Although the statement of Oleg Nefedov is really bad for LGBTQ people.
And there is one truth: Russia is really bad at respect LGBT rights.

https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2023/11/30/verkhovnyi-sud-priznal-lgbt-ekstremistskoi-organizatsiei-news

https://www.moscowtimes.nl/2023/11/30/verhovnii-sud-priznal-lgbt-dvizhenie-ekstremistskim-i-zapretil-ego-v-rossii-a114780

Верховный суд признал ЛГБТ «экстремистской» организацией

Верховный суд РФ в Москве признал «экстремистской» организацией и постановил запретить «Международное общественное движение ЛГБТ». Об этом сообщает корреспондент «Новой газеты Европа».

Новая газета Европа
Show threadNina KalininaNov 30, 2023

@awkapuma @Guildz the criminal law (article 282.4.1) of Russia:

1. Propaganda or public display of Nazi attributes or symbols, .... or attributes or symbols of extremist organisations ...

shall be punished by ... either corrective labour for a term of one to two years, or compulsory labour for a term of up to four years, or imprisonment for the same term.

this law has been used against people sharing logos of Navalny's party, which is also considered an extremist organization. The very same law has been applied against
people with "AUE" symbols, which are also not an organsiation-declared-one. It is pretty clear that a rainbow flag is an LGBT symbol, so lawyers of OVD-Info say displaying a pride flag is an offense.

Here's meduza's overview of the situation: https://meduza.io/cards/minyust-izobrel-nesuschestvuyuschee-mezhdunarodnoe-obschestvennoe-dvizhenie-lgbt-i-sobiraetsya-priznat-ego-ekstremistskim

Минюст изобрел «международное общественное движение ЛГБТ» — и собирается признать его экстремистским Думали, что предыдущие гомофобные идеи властей безумны? Просто познакомьтесь с новой — это настоящая катастрофа — Meduza

17 ноября Министерство юстиции РФ направило в суд иск с требованием объявить «экстремистской организацией» и запретить в России «международное общественное движение ЛГБТ».

Meduza
Show threadNina KalininaNov 30, 2023
@awkapuma @Guildz as for the specifics of the court decision: it might not be public at all. It isn't uncommon to not publish court decrees. The official newspaper of the Russian government says "The session was held in closed mode due to the presence of classified materials in the case, representatives of the defendant did not appear in court." so the only thing we as "peasants" might get access to is an updated list of "extremist organisations" in Russia. The list is going to be updated on the 10th of January, it seems.
Show threadawkapumaNov 30, 2023

@nina_kali_nina @Guildz
So, now all of us, we have more information than at the begining.
So the whole news the global media is talking is about a "secret session" with no witnesses. ¿Can we see we are talking about misinformation and fake news?

And as you said "so lawyers of OVD-Info say displaying a pride flag is an offense" ...*lawyers*, not the Russian Law, in concrete, since there are no registry yet.

This "a single display of LGBT flag" is the thing i see its more like misinformation.

Show threadawkapumaNov 30, 2023

@nina_kali_nina @Guildz
By the way, lets be clear: I totally reject Russia's any attack on LGBTQ rights. Russia is a very bad government for LGBTQ community.

And also, i dont wanna change anyone's mind. I just wanna point how misinformation and fake news about Russia or China are a problem for all of us.

Anyone can be manipulated, we are not above misinformation or fakenews, just that. Thanks!

Show threadNina KalininaNov 30, 2023

@awkapuma @Guildz yes, fake news are a problem, but you can check any Russian media, be it national news service RIA/Russia Today, or Parliament Newspaper, or even the official newspaper of the government Russian Gazette rg.ru - they all confirm that LGBT is an extremist organisation now. Russian Gazette confirms that distribution of LGBT symbols or books can be treated as an extremism: https://rg.ru/2023/11/30/izmenili-okras.html

This is very real. I'll bookmark this and reply when I'll see the first news about people getting arrested for being a part of LGBT

Верховный суд признал движение ЛГБТ экстремистским

Верховный суд признал движение ЛГБТ экстремистским

Российская газета
Show threadawkapuma
@nina_kali_nina @Guildz
I understand your point. Hope you understand mine, that global media is just assuming about a "secret session"with no witnesses.
I like this:
"when I'll see the first news about people getting arrested for being a part of LGBT" and i add "A single display of LGBT flag, offline or online" Im not challenge you or anyone. But,if nothing of that happens soon or some months ¿does anyone think world media will tell"oh,we made a mistake,Russia is not making LGBTQ as terrorists"
Nov 30, 2023 at 7:14pmWeb