MicroWaveNov 30, 2023

Biden announces proposal to replace all lead water service lines in US within 10 years

https://lemmy.world/post/8969305

Biden announces proposal to replace all lead water service lines in US within 10 years - Lemmy.World

The Biden administration has announced a proposal to “strengthen its Lead and Copper Rule that would require water systems to replace lead service lines within 10 years,” the White House said in a statement on Thursday. According to the White House, more than 9.2 million American households connect to water through lead pipes and lead service lines and, due to “decades of inequitable infrastructure development and underinvestment,” many Americans are at risk of lead exposure. “There is no safe level of exposure to lead, particularly for children, and eliminating lead exposure from the air, water, and homes is a crucial component of the Biden-Harris Administration’s historic commitment to advancing environmental justice,” the Biden administration said.

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Can’t wait for the GOP to sabotage this so they can oWn ThE LiBs: “Lead free pipes are for socialists!”
Nov 30, 2023 at 7:14pmWeb
Show threadDarkGamerNov 30, 2023
I've long wondered if lead exposure accounts for their behaviors over the past couple decades
Show threadCADmonkeyNov 30, 2023

I’ve long wondered if lead exposure accounts for their behaviors over the past couple decades.

That’s exactly what has happened.

Imagine, if you will, a country that has a lot of land area, which uses personal ground transport to grt around. Imagine if, for decades, those personal transport machines used large, ineffcient engines that ran on a fuel that caused aerosolized lead to be blown into the atmosphere at a staggering rate?

Show threadMasterBlasterNov 30, 2023
Do not forget lead paint, pipes and crystal.
Show threadSocsaDec 1, 2023
Also more recently, people who will cycle 1000 rounds of cheap ammo through sixteen different guns as a hobby and then spread that lead dust all through their car and home. Shooting as a hobby isn’t new, but they volume and frequency people are doing it has definitely gone way up in some parts of the US in the past 30 years.
Show threadMasterBlasterDec 1, 2023
I hadn’t thought of that one.
Show threadPersnickityPenguinDec 1, 2023

I remember watching a grand thumb (gun nut YouTuber) video where he found out about the lead poisoning and started wearing an N95 mask at the range.

He switched to lead free ammo IIRC. His buddies made fun of him.

Show threadtoo_high_for_thisDec 1, 2023

Imagine, if you will, a three by seven inch wooden frame – a frame that’s a gateway to a world of imagination. Wipe your mind on the welcome mat. You’re about to enter…

The Scary Door.

Show threadPersnickityPenguinDec 1, 2023
That’s a tiny door
Show threadWhiskyTangoFoxtrotDec 1, 2023
It turns out it’s man.
Show threadJayNov 30, 2023
I’m not sure about that, I’ve had lead poisoning for thirty years and I’m still not stupid enough to support those assholes.
Show threadpeopleproblemsNov 30, 2023

it’s dose dependant, and while your particular neurological effects may be different, in population studies for almost every country where lead has been banned, there is a direct relationship to violent crimes as well. Lead gasoline use goes up, crime rate goes up. Lead gasoline stops, and as the lead is measured to leave the environment, the violent crime goes down.

Intelligence is only one possible thing affected. It’s also highly associated with emotional impulsiveness.

Show threadJayNov 30, 2023
Oh I’m sure. I have many of those issues, but then I also did before I was poisoned and treated for it. How much it affected me is hard to say though overall because I’ve got adhd and have always been impulsive… My temper has been an issue since I was born, so I have a lot of practice suppressing it.
Show threadPersnickityPenguinDec 2, 2023
How did you find out you had lead poisoning?
Show threadJayDec 2, 2023
I burned my leg by getting splashed with a bit of molten metal when I was working at a metal foundry when I was around 21 years old. My family doc tending to it ran some tests and next thing I knew I was on medication for it… some kind of horse sized pills that were nearly impossible to keep down.
Show threadPersnickityPenguinDec 1, 2023
People typically can see a ~3 IQ point deficit with long term lead poisoning.
Show threadJayDec 1, 2023
I guess thankfully I had a couple to spare :)
Show threadPatchesNov 30, 2023

Wonder no more my friend.

forbes.com/…/how-lead-caused-americas-violent-cri…

manhattan.institute/…/lead-and-crime-a-review-of-…

How Lead Caused America's Violent Crime Epidemic

In the mid-20th century, America experienced an epidemic of violent crime. The culprit? Lead.

Forbes
Show threadakaxakaDec 1, 2023
Why replace lead pipes at huge costs when you can just shoot criminals?
Show threadSocsaDec 1, 2023
It turns out that more lead was the answer all along
Show threadvic_rattleheadDec 1, 2023
Think about how many bullets those old pipes can be turned into! This project would practically pay for itself with the cost of ammunition these days.
Show threadSwampYankeeDec 1, 2023
I love when people who grew up in the 70s tell me the world is so much less safe today.
Show threadGot_BentDec 1, 2023

I worry about this a little bit for myself.

I was just shy of twenty years old when leaded gas sales ended in California.

So I definitely grew up with lots of exposure. Hope it doesn’t dement me out in my final couple of decades.

Show threadPersnickityPenguinDec 1, 2023

I worked on a community gardening project in the city when I was in grad school. We had an ordinary urban residential lot and wanted to plant a community vegetable garden.

The soil was so incredibly contaminated with lead from 70 years old leaded gasoline that we had to scrape off the top 6 ft of topsoil and send it to a toxic waste dump, and the replace all of that. Then we built raised garden beds to mitigate lead uptake in the plants.

Most cities in the world are still heavily contaminated and lead will never go away.

Show threadPatchesNov 30, 2023

I ate pieces of shit covered in lead for breakfast my whole life, and look at me… I’m doing just fine.

  • Deranged Lunatic
Show threadnotannpcNov 30, 2023
Came here to say this. I look forward to whatever their excuse is to not solve the toxic drinking water problem. And likely immediately spend more on DoD or cut taxes to the rich.
Show threadkaseDec 1, 2023

DoD

Dungeons or Dragons?

Show threadlolcatnipDec 1, 2023
Department of Defense
Show threadlolcatnipDec 1, 2023
Department of Defense
Show threadnotannpcDec 1, 2023

That would be infinitely cooler and more useful.

Sadly it’s the department of defense.

Show thread7u5k3nNov 30, 2023
I can already hear my boomer father bitching
Show threadBlumpkinheadNov 30, 2023
“We don’t want any of your leftist ‘woke’ pipes!”
Show threadAtaraxiaDec 1, 2023
Lead makes Republicans
Show threadSocsaDec 1, 2023
It’s funny, because the hexbears basic have the same “Democrats bad” reaction. Almost like there’s a weird amount of ideological overlap.
Show threadCowbeeDec 1, 2023
Not a hexbear, but the leftist “Biden bad” narrative wouldn’t demonize investing in infrastructure, they would call out shit like unconditional support for Israel or failing to meaningfully improve social safety nets via Medicare for All, or other such measures. Biden is a Liberal, at the end of the day, and that’s not going to please any leftist except by not being a fascist.
Show threadDark ArcDec 1, 2023
Never underestimate the effects of extremism on rational conclusions