return2ozmaAmericans are 'doom spending' — here's why that's a problem
SamsonSeinfelderFrom the article (saved you a click):
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Nearly all Americans are concerned about the current state of the economy.
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Still, many continue to spend more and save less.
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“Doom spending” may be one way to cope with stress as economic fears mount, however, it comes at the expense of your financial well-being.
be_excellent_to_each_otherStill, many continue to spend more and save less.
That's what happens when literally everything costs more than it used to.
RanvierThat may be part of it but isn’t a full explanation. For instance black Friday spending increased hy 7.5% compared to last year, whereas inflation increased 3.2% over the last year.
BraveSirZaphodI think there's a real argument to be made in favor of the doomspending hypothesis, particularly with younger millenials and housing. If you accept that you're simply not going to be buying a house any time remotely soon, the temptation grows to just say fuck it and go buy some nice stuff or go on a trip.
Speaking with an n of 1, I’ve certainly noticed I tend to spend more impulsively when stressed. Definitely a theory.
FuglyDuckEh, given the sales that go on black Friday, people may have been saving for large but necessary purchases. That black Friday was as big as it was is also a sign that people are trying to save a buck.
I know I picked up a washer and dryer, and not much else
You may be right, October retail sales growth was weaker and something like 2.6% growth (just under the 3.2% inflation) as described in articles linked by the posted article. When the year finishes there will be more concrete data beyond just black Friday to find out for sure.
I think, if the data is granular enough, you could see it in what people were buying. Of half the sales were in DVDs and grown-up-toys, then yeah, it’s doom spending.
But I doubt anyone whose pay check to pay check or even remotely close just went out and drop loads of cash on things that weren’t either vaguely needed or budgeted into savings.
Outside of Black Friday, spending increases are accounted for by increase in food and energy inflation- not to mention the cost of debt- especially revolving debt.
Also consider, that the 5% gains you cite probably include people that don’t really need them. The rest of us see a net loss compared to inflation- maybe not yoy, but compared to the last three years certainly. Rememebe the whole point raising interest is to both reduce demand and reduce increases in pay. (After all, it’s all the consumer’s fault and not at all greedy corporations fixing the prices of eggs… which are pretty much used in every kitchen.)
This year no toys for me- rather it was very much needed appliances.
“the rest of us see a net loss compared to inflation”
The data suggests most people have not seen a not loss compared to inflation. Agreed you would need more granular data to know for sure, in case the mean was too influenced by outliers. So I looked up median too which are seeing similar rates of wage growth. So no that doesn’t appear to be the case. Most people are not seeing a net loss compared to inflation.
Median weekly earnings increased 5.7 percent over the year ending in the second quarter of 2023 : The Economics Daily: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
Median weekly earnings of the 121.5 million full-time wage and salary workers in the United States increased from $1,041 in the second quarter of 2022 to $1,100 in the second quarter of 2023, a gain of 5.7 percent. This compared with a gain of 4.0 percent in the Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers over the same period.