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Alioth Fox (but you can call me Daddy~)Nov 28, 2023

Hi all! As some of you may have been hearing, there's a big shake-up at #Patreon right now, and they're purging a lot of ABDL-related accounts. Several popular #ABDL creators have suddenly found themselves removed from Patreon with no way to appeal. I am setting up a #SubscribeStar page in the meantime, which you can follow at https://subscribestar.com/AliothFox. There's nothing there yet, and I don't think you can subscribe yet because there's an approval process; it is still under construction, but the current plan is that it will offer the exact same benefits as my Patreon page currently does. I'll post updates as the situation develops further. PLEASE support your ABDL artist friends and check on them during this time, and help out where you can - we are scared, and our already-tenuous sense of stability has been shaken out from under us, with a lot of us wondering how we're going to pay the bills.

EDIT: My Patreon account has now also been removed. Please consider commissioning me

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Ghosty Nov 28, 2023

@AliothFox Do you know if Subscribestar has similar Payment options?
Especially for people not in the US this might get more complicated and expensive otherwise.
Although I honestly don't have a better idea, it's just such a clusterfuck

Alioth Fox (but you can call me Daddy~)Nov 28, 2023

@GhostyCub I genuinely don't know enough about SubscribeStar yet to know what their payment options are. The banner at the bottom of the page shows that they accept most major credit cards. I don't know what other options are possible.

Ghosty Nov 28, 2023

@AliothFox Yeah no problem.. Guess we all just have to wait and see.
Credit card always means fees for off-country use.
But if that shit really goes down, at least there are options for international subscribers. Even if they come with their own set of problems.

It's just so sudden and feels completely unnecessary to carpet bomb abdl artists-.-

Kuraiko Nov 28, 2023

@GhostyCub @AliothFox they only support credit-/debitcards and mention in their FAQ that they don't plan to support PayPal as a payment method in the foreseeable future

Ghosty Nov 28, 2023

@kuraiko @AliothFox I really hope they rethink that

Alioth Fox (but you can call me Daddy~)

@GhostyCub @kuraiko I would say that is unlikely considering the relationship with PayPal is very likely one of the factors contributing to Patreon's rug-pull in the first place.

Kuraiko Nov 28, 2023

@AliothFox @GhostyCub but credit cards aren't such a thing all around the world as they are e.g. in the USA...

Alioth Fox (but you can call me Daddy~)Nov 28, 2023

@kuraiko @GhostyCub They do accept payments through something called "Skrill," which is (according to them) an international payment provider, but again, I don't know anything about it.

Ghosty Nov 28, 2023

@AliothFox @kuraiko Guess for now, we'll just have to wait and see how that progresses.
It's such a blow for artists

Alioth Fox (but you can call me Daddy~)Nov 28, 2023

@GhostyCub @kuraiko It is. Even though my page is still there (for now), I know a lot of my supporters are going to leave because a lot of their favorite creators are no longer there, and many others will likely (and understandably) leave Patreon on general principle. Even though my page hasn't been banned (and it still could be - I'm not ruling out that possibility), this is still very definitely going to seriously affect me too. It hurts everyone, not just the ones who were unfairly banned.

Kuraiko Nov 28, 2023

@GhostyCub @AliothFox I'm sure subscribestar won't be the only alternative... and if Patreon really purges all ABDL Artists then probably a few more will show up.

Alioth Fox (but you can call me Daddy~)Nov 28, 2023

@kuraiko @GhostyCub As I said on Twitter: you're going to see a LOT of ABDL artists hawking their commissions and SubscribeStar pages and so forth in the coming weeks and months. We're scared and not sure how we're going to pay the bills.

Kuraiko Nov 28, 2023

@AliothFox @GhostyCub they can tell a lot ^^ but yeah, it's a international payment provider...

Pepper 🔜 AFC Nov 28, 2023

@AliothFox @GhostyCub @kuraiko Yeah I’m honestly surprised most of us even still have PayPal accounts.

Ghosty Nov 28, 2023

@pepperpawbs @AliothFox @kuraiko Let's not jinx it, shall we. As crappy as PP might be at times, it makes it easier or even possible for us international clients.. where credit cards are not so widespread and not everybody would even be able to get one.