Antony: "Its not just using Palestine as a laboratory, but its the idea and the ideology of getting away with it.

Israel has no real accountability. That has been the case for decades.

Even the nations that are publicly critical of Israel, are desperate for their surveillance and spyware tech."

Caroline Hunter on her anti apartheid activism. "I grew up in segregated New Orleans." "I was a bit of a 10th grade nerd."

"As a Black person you are told to work twice as hard. Graduated highschool in 64 during the civil rights movement. Organized my first protest in college. Graduated and joined Polaroid. I took a job in liberal Cambridge MA. Polaroid was considered a "liberal" organization. But it was not unionized."

"On the bulletin board, there is an ID card for the only Black person in Polaroid."

"I didn't know Polaroid was in South Africa...I looked up South African apartheid...did..book research, to confirm that the Black population was essentially controlled by passbook laws."

"Israel has gone from denying its an apartheid state to saying yes we are an apartheid state. The ID card has been replaced with digital technology.

The Polaroid ID was used in South Africa, it was used in Vietnam, carried into other conflicts."

Ariel talking about project Nimbus. Google was intentionally extremely discrete about the project. They weren't speaking about it publicly, event internally, it was obvious that the company was trying to sweep this work under the rug.

Google is providing powerful cloud services to the government & military that is violating human rights on a regular bases...Google & Amazon have no rights to determine which government departments are beneficiaries....several military agencies are beneficiaries.