Intrusive thoughts are terrifying. It’s a testament to our collective willpower that we haven’t horrifically murdered each other.

Also, I’m really glad the phrase “intrusive thoughts” came along. It made the whole thing a lot easier to talk about.

They aren’t intrusive thoughts, they’re just your thoughts, stop being afraid of thinking. Now if you lack impulse control, then we have a problem.

They are intrusive thoughts, because that’s the phrase that was coined to describe these types of thoughts. Sometimes we come up with specific phrases in order to describe more specific concepts.

Right, nuance and context are infinitely important. Now what’s the functional difference between the two, because 8f none exists that can be implemented by the individual then the nuanced difference between the types of thoughts becomes irrelevant to how one handles them.

Thoughts = literally any thought

Intrusive thoughts = the type of thoughts we don’t particularly want to think because they make us uncomfortable, but they intrude into our stream of consciousness either way.

My stream of consciousness picks things up, not has things fall into it.

It’s a matter of perspective.

what you’re failing to pick up on is that no one cares about how you handle your thoughts and you can stop talking about yourself as if we should all aspire to think the way you do. this thread has largely been about the shared experience of having what we call intrusive thoughts and you coming here and trying to hijack that by telling us we are doing it wrong was never going to be well received.

Cool story, glad your shared experiences are the only valid ones because it involves suffering.

we’re not suffering and you’re not a savior. stop trying to impose your way of thinking on a bunch of people. that’s one of the very first things one needs to learn in life to not be an insufferable person. i suppose the irony is that I was once like that and have learned to stop. but I can recognize it in an instant.

Never claimed to be except in metaphore, I’m not trying to impose my thinking on anyone. Making statements is not persuasion, if you want your mind changed change it, but that doesn’t change the legitimacy of my point of view.

I’m not shying away despite the downvotes because they’re irrelevant, anyone who chooses to benefit themselves with what I provide will do so. No intelligent person has ever been without detractors, I’m aware of the value of the derogatory statements towards me, it’s zero. Because anyone lacking the capacity to see past their feelings for comprehension doesn’t have an opinion worth entertaining.

the problem is that your clearly believe your way of thinking is better for everyone else. it is better FOR YOU. full stop. you are welcome to share what works FOR YOU. but your attitude that it is objectively better for everyone else is not something you could possibly know. and your insistence that it is better whether anyone accepts that or not is strong evidence of your lack of maturity and life experience.

The lack of suffering is objective evidence it’s better.

if you think evidence in your own life makes something objectively better for others then you have no idea what objective means.