CantaloupeLifestyleSen. Mitt Romney Says He Would Vote For 'Virtually' Anybody Other Than Trump or Ramaswamy
You and me both buddy, now do everything you can to convince the fleeting numbers of sane folks in your party to do the same.
Sounds vaguely like an ethical stance, except DeSantis is still ok for him.
It’s implied. Sounds tacky to list 3 people in that statement
AlwaysNowNeverNotMeIs ramaswamy actually out polling desantis? If not it's definitely implying he would support desantis
He flat out says;
"the others that are running are acceptable to me and I'd be happy to vote for them,"
ZeroCoolYeah, but you’d have to actually read the article to know that.
He also says that he supports "some" of the Democrats running for president. So you know, he wants spoiler candidates to help DeSantis win.
Could be that if he mentions all three, it’s implied he’d choose Nicki Haley and that would just set him up for binders full of women jokes.
Nikki Haley isn’t flat out awful but that’s not really an endorsement
Yeah…. His usual ethical-adjacent stance. He won’t support the awful but the moderately better are just fine. The pinnacle of GOP integrity is still pathetic.
Flying SquidI don’t know. Is DeSantis moderately better?
If you’re fine with whitewashing and gay bashing, sure.
is it me or does it seem like both political parties are dying
Probably not just you, but I don’t see that.
serious question, without naming any politicians, do you think any of the candidates is going to do a good job, from any party, I don’t want to put you in the spot so just yes or no is fine.
Define good
good as in being able to balance the budget while keeping inflation low and helping people, all people, earn a living wage, fight for education so we can start exporting engineers and doctors who get money abroad and spend it in the US, instead of importing them, make healthcare care and homes affordable. Last president who balanced the budget was Clinton, I believe, and home costs have been going through the roof after the pandemic. Engineers and doctors are coming from Asia. The military is the last good thing but the cost is very high.
But I think I agree with you, expectations is what drives the votes.
Then no.
Okay, everything is incremental (and no one politician can do everything by themselves), but Obama’s platform was Healthcare reform, and he got that done, just not as much as we wanted. But it still made Healthcare more affordable for the low and low/middle classes, and it established regulations on what must be covered and made businesses with full-time workers responsible to give health insurance. Is it everything we could hope for? No. Was it better than what was before it? Yes. He still had a ton of things against him (renewing PATRIOT Act, drone-striking a bunch of children, not supporting LGBTQ+ people until it was a foregone conclusion, etc), but he helped with Healthcare.
Biden and Democrats have tried to institute student loan forgiveness (and been fought against at every corner). They are constantly fighting against the dismantling of the education system by the Republicans, and I’d say holding the line is an achievement in itself (though they kind of suck at holding lines). And inflation has slowed dramatically over the past several months (under Biden), largely due to efforts put in place in the past that are only now bearing fruit.
So yes, some politicians have been doing some good, and the perfect is the enemy of the good. If your expectations for what would be considered a “good” politician is to single-handedly fix all the problems that you personally take issue with, no politician will ever be “good.”
good points, but the changes at their best help only the poor, or the people that make up to 4 times the poverty level which is only about 35k or 50k tops. then you have a section of society from50k to 100k who is mostly screwed and have to pony up everything for everything. They try to fix it, but fixing it for some is not fixing it, they must fix it for all if it’s going to make an impact.
spaceghotiSo you’re determined to make perfect the enemy of good. Maybe one day you’ll learn the world just doesn’t work that way, especially not when the party of con artists and grifters is willing to sabotage any initiative that might accomplish what you demand so you buy into the “both sides” bullshit.
why are you attacking me? make your arguments and let’s have a conversation. this seems like a cope out answer.
Because you’re promoting the “both sides” bullshit, and I’m out of patience with it. If you want to see more progress, get out the vote. Stop repeating Republican talking points.
this mf in lemmy thinking is congress or the united nations, thinking he’s very productive by posting his thoughts into a browser.
Pot, meet Kettle.
If you want better responses, do better. It’s already been explained to you in exhausting detail how you can’t have your ideal world until we help create it, and still you persist in blaming Democrats for not having the power to do more even when they make the effort. So you’ll have to excuse me if I’m not willing to waste my time repeating facts you already know.
did you started a movement yet that we all can join? or you mean let’s talk about it in Lemmy and hope it magically happens.
🤦♂️ my point from the beginning is that there are no good candidates to vote for. you can gather 30 million people but you can’t get a good candidate out there to vote for, which makes it useless. maybe go back and read ALL my comments? did you just made the bare minimum and read one comment to start arguing?
I read the whole thing, which is why my initial comment to you stands. You won’t stop blaming Democrats unless you get the perfect candidate with the perfect policies, and that’s never going to happen. So let me know when you grow up, and we can revisit this conversation then.
Goodbye.
wait, ok. which democrat has a campaign and can actually change everything I listed? name one.
It takes two to come to an agreement but only one to start a fight. If one party is dedicated to stopping all progress, the other can only govern if it has a super majority.
but that is both parties when the other is in power, IMO
That’s just not true. Dems voted for good bills when they were in the minority and the GOP voted against any Dem bill when Biden/Obama were in power. There are GOPs who voted against Biden’s infrastructure Bill, and then took credit for it after it passed.
There are Republicans who spent a decade fighting tooth and nail against Obamacare, and still took credit for Obamacare provisions in their home states.
All Donnie had to do was change a few lines of the ACA and then declare it “Trumpcare.” GOP would rather see it’s people die than admit the Dems had a good idea.
Doing a good job? Debateable. Not being evil? Some of them, but very few on the Republican side.
Lol moderately? He’s basically the villian in It Can’t Happen Here
Blackout"But not Biden so probably Trump but I will have my fingers crossed when I be a hypocrite and Jebus will forgive me." - Rich white guy
But… he voted for Biden.
SeraphThen vote Biden?
Can’t get over the fact that the malarkey guy is still the least bad option and neither can Bo Burnham
Bo Burnham - Joe Biden (4K)
Then just say it. Your party is a shell of itself.
As if it wasn’t purposefully working toward this for ages. This is its culmination.
gregorumEvery once in a while, Romney will stand up and do the bare minimum.
swoons in Mormon
but that’s everyone in congress
is it not?
No it isn’t. The entire government is running on a fake budget pretty much indefinitely because Congress won’t raise taxes, or reign in spending. The bare minimum would be a balanced budget, only spending what they had with the sole exception being a massive temporary crisis.
I deal with budgets as part of my job. When a project goes over I have to answer to the CEO.
but we’re talking about the politicians, it takes work to balance a budget, they are not doing it, as you said, because… wait for it… they are doing the bare minimum. that’s what i said. I don’t disagree with you, we’re actually on the same page. if they would look at the government as a company, like you do, and the president as the CEO, it would be different. but it’s every man for himself out there
Incorrect
well, when you put it that way
I backed up my assertion as much as you did
the sorry, I am using memmy and it’s next to impossible to find the context and thread. this app is not very good for long conversations with multiple threads in the same post. I’m tired of scrolling through the whole post so good luck to you.
Well as long as you did the bare minimum.
Try using a browser next time, like a normal person.
are you high? what is wrong with you.
4gramsTrue but it’s almost always too late to matter though…
Th4tGuyIIIt's genuinely surprising how low the bar is for a Republican to be considered ethical - refusing to vote in the guy who literally tried to pull a coup on your country shouldn't even be an ethical stance, it should be the stance of literally everyone
But… But… Trans people
Seriously tho G W Bush ran on Gays are getting married oh no! And rode that to state and local wins even before 9/11 happened
Right??
Mittens sucks out loud, but I have to give it to him: he's had some ethical stances on things.