Lee DunaGerman police raid homes of 17 people accused of posting antisemitic hate speech on social media
JackThis made me think because raiding peoples homes doesn’t seem right, but saying things like this definitely isn’t right.
In the end I think a inclusive society should exclude it’s exclusive elements.
muntedcrocodileThat makes us no better than them tho.
That’s what those fuckers want you to think.
So its ok when we silence a group of people for their beliefs but not when they do it?
If you want a tolerant society, you cannot tolerate the intolerant.
There is a reason thats a paradox. And democracy does not need to supress anti democraric ideas it just need to prevent anti democratic action.
I believe that we should have a free marketplace of ideas and i will not let you subvert that by exploiting my tolerance of ur intolerance.
If you want a tolerant society, you cannot tolerate the intolerant
That doesn’t mean silencing anyone who utters “wrongspeak,” but authoritarians like you are pushing precisely that. “We shall decide who the intolerant are and they shall be banned from our tolerant society.” I would much rather live in a world where I had to listen to ignorant views like yours than be “protected” from them but never forced to figure out for myself why I disagree. Bigotry flourishes in darkness; the solution is to bring it out into the light.
Sure, but your methodology for determining what is an anti-democratic idea should be really tight, before you raid/arrest people.
No one wants murders in their society, but showing that they did that action is more important than stating that an action is wrong/anti-democratic/immoral etc.
ParsnipWitchHow do you suppose they should have proceeded instead?
In this case if they have evidence, they should be investigated as is being done.
My critique is on the general sense of tolerance/intolerance as that can be vague, although unjustified incitement of violence or violent action is a good place to draw a line. However what is a call to violence can be tricky to parse sometimes.
𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍When those beliefs involve the eradication of anyone who isn’t exactly like you, yes.
So we should silence all the religouse fundamentalists as well?
Religious extremists advocating for violence should be, yes.
But the actual content of what these people said hasnt been published so we dont knwo if they where callibg for vilence. Maybw they where just being hatefull?
If they call for genocide? Yes, of course.
What makes you think society should just sit idly by and do nothing when people call for mass murder and genocide?